deer dogs (preban)

[FUJI 17,156]

I think it should be stated that Moo's dog ain't out of a pure Saluki and a pure Deerhound for those that thought he was ..fine animal he is though ..not Moo the dog

[gamerooster 1,179]

I think it should be stated that Moo's dog ain't out of a pure Saluki and a pure Deerhound for those that thought he was ..fine animal he is though ..not Moo the dog

 

deerhound greyhound saluki greyhound?

[MOO 730]

3/8 deer x saluki type although there is some bull and even whippet in his make up ....28" +/- 70lb...its a pity he wasnt around before the ban I think he could of been handy

[alan.rob 4]

​beddie/whippet i like it :clapper: :clapper: :clapper: .

[flipper82 6]

I used do loads of deer roe and fallow both are qwick both can jump and have had fallow buck get up and charge at me (very short coarse lol) to turn and face a dog with head lowered and charge the dog but in fairness that sort of behavour was with ones in wood and thick cover rather than out in the open and used all types of lurcher but 1/4 collie are 1/4 bull was my favourate f*#k the ban i miss it something special about watching your dog run down and kill a deer

[coursing-lad 71]

All my dogs did deer daytime or night

[paulsmithy83 567]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what did you find was a real test for you dog

 

when a 190lb fallow stag decides he aint going to run no more, and face's a dog , thats a test if you got a deer dog. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/yes.gif

Not asking you bird but what does a deer dog do at this point?

i suppose a good deer dog would get the job done or at the very least give it its all...... if it does feck all its jacked........

Got in 1 ,any decent dog will just get stuck in and stuck in quickly n quietly. any reverse and the dog shudnt b slip as aint up task

[paulsmithy83 567]

Wat peeps thin was the toughest to catch to me I say it was ever the fallow stag for sheer size and power , n munti in the woods for sheer awkward they run through bramble and cover like rockets while dog rebounds lol

[brog 670]

my old dog

[turkish 287]

Brog that is one nice dog. What way he bred deerhound x ????

[blackgreyhound 206]

i was in a pheashant wood in january walking around a pen in the dark .i see some mist riseing from the ground tho it was not mist it was a new born baby muntjack.the mother had just given birth to it. i quickly left the pen so the mother would come back.ive seen some very bad cuts where muntys have slashed dogs .muntjacks are very difffecult to catch in thick cover especially with one dog.you need a dog with determination to catch in thick bramble .most dogs are not up to it.chinese waterdeer are not that fast but some can turn very well and it can take a bit of stamina to catch a good fit one .tho my dog did chase a exceptional one for several minutes once and it just jumped a high hedge and was gone.i tried putting him on big reds but he looked at me as if to say i know i am big i am strong but 75lbs is not going to be big enough for those monsters .it was rutting season and about 8 charged at him .he could take fallow allways grabed the hock .he caught a barasinga and that was very fast with terrific take off speed.for big deer pre ban you really need two dogs that weigh at least 75lbs otherwise some of those big deer are going to escape and they will be damaged which is a very bad calling card.muntjacks for there size can be very strong they are the bullxgreyhound of the deer world i have seen ocassions when a 45 lb dog could not hold a big one .average size muntys yes but if you get a decent size buck they are very powerful for thier size and can sometimes cut dogs to pieces .you have to remember red stags can weigh from 200lbs up to 420lbs which is about 14stone up to 30stone .two heavy dogs would be needed for one of those.hunting big deer with to light a dog is unfair on the dog and the deer .i would be looking preban for 2gsdxg weight 75 to 85lbs/or two bullxgrey big heavy tall ones 75 lbs .or in modern times malxg 85 to 95lbs or rhodesian xg 85 to 95 lbs.you have to remember in the middle ages they allways run deerhounds in coupels not singly.i canott see any single dog pulling down a 420lbs deer .i did have two gsdxg billy and badger they as a pair would have a go at anything 75lbs and 85lbs the only trouble was i mean anything .which meant dogs sheep deer donkeys etc .i couldnt get them off anything once they were on it .i have never seen such a pair of norman bates since.they were so dangerous they had a pack mentality they had to go.it is all very well breeding dogs for deer but some can be a very big liability especially if they go into wolf mode

[Hot Meat 3,109]

If it was dark how do you it was a baby munty? How many mal or rodesian crosses have you seen take big deer? Or is this something else you worked out in a jotter haha

[blackgreyhound 206]

mr hotmeat .i am not blind on a moonlit night if you canott see steam riseing from a baby deer you need glasses.or a white stick.also i did not say i had bred a rhodesianxg ,i have seen a malxg pictures are on this forum as you well know and it has done the buissness ?

[blackgreyhound 206]

fitchet. thaht dog has got some hard looking eyes on it. by its gaze i can see its a very hard determined dog

Edited April 12, 2013 by blackgreyhound

[DEERMAN 1,018]

i was in a pheashant wood in january walking around a pen in the dark .i see some mist riseing from the ground tho it was not mist it was a new born baby muntjack.the mother had just given birth to it. i quickly left the pen so the mother would come back.ive seen some very bad cuts where muntys have slashed dogs .muntjacks are very difffecult to catch in thick cover especially with one dog.you need a dog with determination to catch in thick bramble .most dogs are not up to it.chinese waterdeer are not that fast but some can turn very well and it can take a bit of stamina to catch a good fit one .tho my dog did chase a exceptional one for several minutes once and it just jumped a high hedge and was gone.i tried putting him on big reds but he looked at me as if to say i know i am big i am strong but 75lbs is not going to be big enough for those monsters .it was rutting season and about 8 charged at him .he could take fallow allways grabed the hock .he caught a barasinga and that was very fast with terrific take off speed.for big deer pre ban you really need two dogs that weigh at least 75lbs otherwise some of those big deer are going to escape and they will be damaged which is a very bad calling card.muntjacks for there size can be very strong they are the bullxgreyhound of the deer world i have seen ocassions when a 45 lb dog could not hold a big one .average size muntys yes but if you get a decent size buck they are very powerful for thier size and can sometimes cut dogs to pieces .you have to remember red stags can weigh from 200lbs up to 420lbs which is about 14stone up to 30stone .two heavy dogs would be needed for one of those.hunting big deer with to light a dog is unfair on the dog and the deer .i would be looking preban for 2gsdxg weight 75 to 85lbs/or two bullxgrey big heavy tall ones 75 lbs .or in modern times malxg 85 to 95lbs or rhodesian xg 85 to 95 lbs.you have to remember in the middle ages they allways run deerhounds in coupels not singly.i canott see any single dog pulling down a 420lbs deer .i did have two gsdxg billy and badger they as a pair would have a go at anything 75lbs and 85lbs the only trouble was i mean anything .which meant dogs sheep deer donkeys etc .i couldnt get them off anything once they were on it .i have never seen such a pair of norman bates since.they were so dangerous they had a pack mentality they had to go.it is all very well breeding dogs for deer but some can be a very big liability especially if they go into wolf mode

You go on about size ,size and size ,i think techinque and minreals are far more important dont you ?you could have 4 x 100lbs dogs and not catch a red ,i known of a 100lb bull x and 60lb bull x stop a 350lb+ Red in the rut .Ive seen 100lb dogs bay at fallow bucks and a 55lb bitch plow straight in,I have a friend who before the ban had a bullx bitch 23tts that if you didnt find her in time would kill everyfallow buck she caught,also i knew of a coursing dog x bull bitch that was 24tts that pulled 18 out of the 20 fallow bucks she run ...techinque and minreals every time !!! ,everyone has different views and standards what they call a deerdog and how they catch ,some accept catching them using fences etc while others look for more out of a dog ..i allways walked everywhere and still do like a walk ,but to really see (or seen before the ban ) what your dog is doing you need to be up close and thats where 4x 4 lamping comes into it ,you cant tell if a dog is pushing a deer or what its really doing if its right at end of beam ,before all the walkers jump down my throat i still belive walking is best way to teach a young dog to lamp ,i just like both but got to admit as im getting older to prefer the 4x 4 lol.

Edited April 12, 2013 by DEERMAN