Qbgrey 4,097 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 had a dog that smashed into woods,hedges,ditches etcdid nt last long died in the field,not a clever dog in my view.i also dont like nightime hedge jumpers Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 If your dogs catching more rabbits by hitting hedges hard then you have to look at your dogs running ability .No rabbit is worth a dog losing its life .After all there going be more in the next field. Dont mind a dog going into hedge but like dog that slows up then entrys the hedge.Dogs that just going flat out are more in the pen injured then they are out working. you must hunt hedgehogs , any dog i owned that pulled up ( slowed down ) at a hedge ,ditch ( pre ban) would not have been in my yard to long , Maybe so but dog that goes in flat out will always be in your yard hurt .A dog can catch rabbits in cover without going flat out and getting hurt Quote Link to post
SHYLOCK 21 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 If your dogs catching more rabbits by hitting hedges hard then you have to look at your dogs running ability .No rabbit is worth a dog losing its life .After all there going be more in the next field. Dont mind a dog going into hedge but like dog that slows up then entrys the hedge.Dogs that just going flat out are more in the pen injured then they are out working. you must hunt hedgehogs , any dog i owned that pulled up ( slowed down ) at a hedge ,ditch ( pre ban) would not have been in my yard to long , Maybe so but dog that goes in flat out will always be in your yard hurt .A dog can catch rabbits in cover without going flat out and getting hurt that is simply not true icman , i dont mean to be argumentative but i have had dogs wreck hedges regular week in week out ,of course percentage wise they are more likely to get hurt but certainly not ALWAYS . 1 Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 If your dogs catching more rabbits by hitting hedges hard then you have to look at your dogs running ability .No rabbit is worth a dog losing its life .After all there going be more in the next field. Dont mind a dog going into hedge but like dog that slows up then entrys the hedge.Dogs that just going flat out are more in the pen injured then they are out working. you must hunt hedgehogs , any dog i owned that pulled up ( slowed down ) at a hedge ,ditch ( pre ban) would not have been in my yard to long , Maybe so but dog that goes in flat out will always be in your yard hurt .A dog can catch rabbits in cover without going flat out and getting hurt that is simply not true icman , i dont mean to be argumentative but i have had dogs wreck hedges regular week in week out ,of course percentage wise they are more likely to get hurt but certainly not ALWAYS . l like dogs that do it as well but in a smart way.Am not saying that all dogs get hurt but they always risk it when going at hedge flat out. Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 One of my dogs is dateless and has spent more time in the sick bay than in a feild.. To much drive not enought brain 1 Quote Link to post
SHYLOCK 21 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 If your dogs catching more rabbits by hitting hedges hard then you have to look at your dogs running ability .No rabbit is worth a dog losing its life .After all there going be more in the next field. Dont mind a dog going into hedge but like dog that slows up then entrys the hedge.Dogs that just going flat out are more in the pen injured then they are out working. you must hunt hedgehogs , any dog i owned that pulled up ( slowed down ) at a hedge ,ditch ( pre ban) would not have been in my yard to long , Maybe so but dog that goes in flat out will always be in your yard hurt .A dog can catch rabbits in cover without going flat out and getting hurt that is simply not true icman , i dont mean to be argumentative but i have had dogs wreck hedges regular week in week out ,of course percentage wise they are more likely to get hurt but certainly not ALWAYS . l like dogs that do it as well but in a smart way.Am not saying that all dogs get hurt but they always risk it when going at hedge flat out. thats not a problem icemn but its hard to learn them they could get seriously hurt hurtling into a ditch Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Posted on this before.. For me, give me a hedge splitter anyday... If a dog won't go in, it ain't stayin here! Learning to do the job properly can be tough on young dogs but not all, some have a natural ability to survive... And those that do... Will catch you some ammount of critters... Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 i think the title of this thread is misleading, it gives an opinion of recklessness an experience dog can pressure his rabbit into hitting a part of the hedge its unfamiliar with, the dog knows exactly what its doing and has learnt the bunny is just sitting within, there is a big difference between that and a dog smashing itself off every fecking thing in sight, what plays out between a dog and its quarry over years of experience has thought the dog valuable lessons, every dog figures out how best to play the game given the attributes its been given, 2 Quote Link to post
Tiny 7 1,694 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Posted on this before.. For me, give me a hedge splitter anyday... If a dog won't go in, it ain't stayin here! Learning to do the job properly can be tough on young dogs but not all, some have a natural ability to survive... And those that do... Will catch you some ammount of critters... Finally a fellah with a bit of sence :yes: Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 If your dogs catching more rabbits by hitting hedges hard then you have to look at your dogs running ability .No rabbit is worth a dog losing its life .After all there going be more in the next field. Dont mind a dog going into hedge but like dog that slows up then entrys the hedge.Dogs that just going flat out are more in the pen injured then they are out working. you must hunt hedgehogs , any dog i owned that pulled up ( slowed down ) at a hedge ,ditch ( pre ban) would not have been in my yard to long , Maybe so but dog that goes in flat out will always be in your yard hurt .A dog can catch rabbits in cover without going flat out and getting hurt that is simply not true icman , i dont mean to be argumentative but i have had dogs wreck hedges regular week in week out ,of course percentage wise they are more likely to get hurt but certainly not ALWAYS . l like dogs that do it as well but in a smart way.Am not saying that all dogs get hurt but they always risk it when going at hedge flat out. thats not a problem icemn but its hard to learn them they could get seriously hurt hurtling into a ditch Your right all dogs risk a injury when out working.Some dogs just dont hold back and every time there slipped its heart in the mouth stuff but think a dog needs to use its head a bit more during the dark of night and box the rabbit off the hedge.During the day is a different story Quote Link to post
SHYLOCK 21 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 If your dogs catching more rabbits by hitting hedges hard then you have to look at your dogs running ability .No rabbit is worth a dog losing its life .After all there going be more in the next field. Dont mind a dog going into hedge but like dog that slows up then entrys the hedge.Dogs that just going flat out are more in the pen injured then they are out working. you must hunt hedgehogs , any dog i owned that pulled up ( slowed down ) at a hedge ,ditch ( pre ban) would not have been in my yard to long , Maybe so but dog that goes in flat out will always be in your yard hurt .A dog can catch rabbits in cover without going flat out and getting hurt that is simply not true icman , i dont mean to be argumentative but i have had dogs wreck hedges regular week in week out ,of course percentage wise they are more likely to get hurt but certainly not ALWAYS . l like dogs that do it as well but in a smart way.Am not saying that all dogs get hurt but they always risk it when going at hedge flat out. thats not a problem icemn but its hard to learn them they could get seriously hurt hurtling into a ditch Your right all dogs risk a injury when out working.Some dogs just dont hold back and every time there slipped its heart in the mouth stuff but think a dog needs to use its head a bit more during the dark of night and box the rabbit off the hedge.During the day is a different story Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I get what folk are saying, dogs smashing dykes and injuring themselfs are nightmare.. Dogs pulling up or wont run a rabbit sat tight on a hedge are a pain.. A decent dog will follow its game but be able to keep on eye on the rabbit and the other looking for danger.. My white bitch catches more rabbits on a hedge bottom or boucing off a stone wall compaired to out in the open it can catch them in the open but runs clever bidding its time often.. I would never have a dog pulling up on a hedge but these pile in hard types are not good to me, its a fine balance between high prey drive and brain dead.. 3 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I get what folk are saying, dogs smashing dykes and injuring themselfs are nightmare.. Dogs pulling up or wont run a rabbit sat tight on a hedge are a pain.. A decent dog will follow its game but be able to keep on eye on the rabbit and the other looking for danger.. My white bitch catches more rabbits on a hedge bottom or boucing off a stone wall compaired to out in the open it can catch them in the open but runs clever bidding its time often.. I would never have a dog pulling up on a hedge but these pile in hard types are not good to me, its a fine balance between high prey drive and brain dead.. Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 I get what folk are saying, dogs smashing dykes and injuring themselfs are nightmare.. Dogs pulling up or wont run a rabbit sat tight on a hedge are a pain.. A decent dog will follow its game but be able to keep on eye on the rabbit and the other looking for danger.. My white bitch catches more rabbits on a hedge bottom or boucing off a stone wall compaired to out in the open it can catch them in the open but runs clever bidding its time often.. I would never have a dog pulling up on a hedge but these pile in hard types are not good to me, its a fine balance between high prey drive and brain dead.. that is what i was saying early in the thread i like a clever dog that is fast but knows how to read its game on a edge runs clever or cute atb Quote Link to post
TonyOrmy 128 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 i have got 3 bitches here mother and daughters the mother is one of them full on take trees out the ground type of dog she spends more time injured than not so now i have to be very carefull were i take her but her two daughters they will slow down a tad and ten follow on through a bit more sensibale if you ask me less injureys and ready for the next nite out as for the hundred a mile anhour dog hitting hedges what is clever about that 1 Quote Link to post
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