silentrunner2011 218 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 right i rescued a terrier from been locked up in a trailer...no human contact, no basic training..got her walking on the lead she was coming along great. great recall...getting confident with me... [bANNED TEXT] she does is jump up alot, well she jumped up at my 2 year old and flattend her so ive now gone firm with her to control her jumping...now shes pissing on the floor, wont come near me goes submissive and goes on her back soon as i call her name. anything i can do to get her confident again but same time teach her whats right from wrong? Quote Link to post
mick c 411 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 sounds tome you started to get her to trust you and now knocked her confidence back. take your time and dont get to firm to quick .hope it works out for you .mick Quote Link to post
silentrunner2011 218 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 not gna let her jump up thats for sure, scared the living shit out of my little 1. shes scared of her now... and i wasnt overly hard on her, bearing in mind the dog in question is 1/4 bull 3/4 patterdale. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Keep her away from the child; keep the dog away from any situation where you would need to tell it off. Any form of negativity at this stage will set the dog back to the place in her head where fear rules. She has obviously had too many bad experiences of humans to ever forget what has happened to her, and the only way you can win her back is to only let her see you as a good place to be. Hand feed her, encourage physical contact with you, avoid sudden movements or loud voice, and NEVER let your own behaviour slip again. The dog jumping up is not a bad thing in her eyes: she was feeling happy and full of energy, and desperate to make contact with people. Not her fault that the child was small and vulnerable, so keep the two apart until you can slowly teach her not to leap up. Dog's can't jump up if they are sitting. So teach her the sit, using food rewards. And be very patient indeed; she may never fully trust people again, but you have a better chance of winning her round and increasing her confidence in you if you make sure not to put her in a situation where she can 'do wrong' in your eyes which will lead you to tell her off. 3 Quote Link to post
silentrunner2011 218 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 good bit of advice there skycat, thanks ...shes in the house with me now again to try and get her to trust me again. the little girl came out her self, i didnt want her to come as i knew she would jump on her, mistakes happen at times....she loves the dogs and is hard to keep her in the house. Quote Link to post
ginga john 268 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I have a bitch here that is bred the same way and this one was left in a stable for two years with only dried food thrown on the floor to eat never been anywhere or seen anyone Amazingly the people that owned it still had time to get pups out of it and more than once i'd say Been here for four months or so now and the change has been very slow but it's as good as it's going to get All I did was to ignore it, All of mine ( 3 other terriers ) are in when I'm in and out when I'm out, outside overnight in individual kennels, even when it pissed on the kitchen floor all I did was to put it outside for a while before I let it back in, it has been allowed to sit where it wanted, within reason of course and basically get itself settled Now after time to learn to trust the situation it's in it has learned to play with one of the other terriers, mostly comes to call ( with the aid of a biscuit ) and has learned to be a dog again These part bull things all seem a bit nervy and it will always be that way but a little time and patience pays off in the end, even the youngster has a game with her now The usual shouting at them when they do wrong is a complete waste of time as they just go straight back to being a nervous wreck and you have to start all over again This bitch has also taken to sticking to me like a limpet, where ever I am she has to be next to me which is ok, even had a bit of light work so seems to have settled It takes different times and situations for a dog that has been mistreated to accept you, just like people they are all different, what's the breeding of the dog as some of the lines of terrier with bull in them are known for there nervous disposition, mostly due to inbreeding I think Good luck with the dog and give it time and plenty of positive attention Quote Link to post
silentrunner2011 218 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 intill this little hicup i cudnt fault her. she was like my shadow, following me, didnt like to leave me.. recall was the best ive even seen in a terrier, even with other dogs around, getting on great with my 2 other terriers but took her in the house for an hour has got her to gain a little more trust with me again now.... like skycat said. keep her and the youngster apart now to avoid mistakes. such a lovely dog be a shame to waist her Quote Link to post
Peter Leemooch 160 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I'm afraid I would bin it life's to shirt to spend correcting other people's mistakes if the dogs going to be working you don't want a temperamental dog you have to constantly worry about upsetting sometimes you just beef to accept a dogs gone past what it can come back from different if its a only pet you can spend time on but why bother there's plenty good dogs out there with a blank canvas Quote Link to post
silentrunner2011 218 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 lmao shut up.what a tool 1 Quote Link to post
alan626 305 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 do wat u told the other lad to do in the bull tameingtread get rid of it lol Quote Link to post
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Keep her away from the child; keep the dog away from any situation where you would need to tell it off. Any form of negativity at this stage will set the dog back to the place in her head where fear rules. She has obviously had too many bad experiences of humans to ever forget what has happened to her, and the only way you can win her back is to only let her see you as a good place to be. Hand feed her, encourage physical contact with you, avoid sudden movements or loud voice, and NEVER let your own behaviour slip again. The dog jumping up is not a bad thing in her eyes: she was feeling happy and full of energy, and desperate to make contact with people. Not her fault that the child was small and vulnerable, so keep the two apart until you can slowly teach her not to leap up. Dog's can't jump up if they are sitting. So teach her the sit, using food rewards. And be very patient indeed; she may never fully trust people again, but you have a better chance of winning her round and increasing her confidence in you if you make sure not to put her in a situation where she can 'do wrong' in your eyes which will lead you to tell her off. Hello matey,sound bit of advice there from skycat Quote Link to post
Peter Leemooch 160 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 lmao shut up.what a tool . im a tool you are the one raising up somebody else's cast offs hahaha sorry you either work dogs or your a good samaritan I don't have time to be barbra woodhouse but fair play if you have time I guess good luck but I would bin it Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Those who quit at the first hurdle are unlikely to ever see the best from their dogs. 2 Quote Link to post
silentrunner2011 218 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 plenty of time, shes well bred...what have i to lose. shes got no aggresion issues... only a little timid and shes fine once off the lead and playing/hunting... Quote Link to post
Peter Leemooch 160 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Those who quit at the first hurdle are unlikely to ever see the best from their dogs. if its a cast off it will of been quit on before maybe more than once Quote Link to post
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