R.A.W 1,987 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 can't understand how some people would suggest shooting the dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you don't want the dog someone will. be honest with them and you'll make a friend for life. there are times when a dog has to go. but not for that 1 Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 can't understand how some people would suggest shooting the dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you don't want the dog someone will. be honest with them and you'll make a friend for life. there are times when a dog has to go. but not for that you have the dog then lol I dread to think what ye have passed on and bred from in the past lol Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Is using its brain and taking its time a really bad thing? Genuine question? It's never bothered me when my bitch does it. She's less likely to pick up an injury running flat out every time she's slipped and more often than not still catches after "stalking" for a while. Gaz 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have a 4 year old 5/8 greyhound 3/8collie bitch. When out lamping she runs very half hearted on rabbits that are 30 or more yards away.Does anyone know how to stop this? The dog as become conditioned to a certain situation,its reacting to past experiences and acting accordingly,as certain Collie types are prone to do,its not lazy or jacking as some would have you believe.Change the situation to give the dog more stimulus,ferreting bunny,s,working free,daytime,having to use its senses to locate,run and catch,if lamping change your lamping style,use a filter,shorter and kicked up slips,no long slips and slips that have the bunny running towards cover.Stay off ground the dog is accustomed to,nothing will cure the dog fully now,they soon learn to work any situation to their individual mindset,keep changing the situation and add diversity. 2 Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Is using its brain and taking its time a really bad thing? Genuine question? It's never bothered me when my bitch does it. She's less likely to pick up an injury running flat out every time she's slipped and more often than not still catches after "stalking" for a while. Gaz i guess that's a matter of personnel opinion I would rather have a dog die trying than a clever half hearted runner I prize drive and desire over brain it's my choice not everybody is the same 3 Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,137 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have a 4 year old 5/8 greyhound 3/8collie bitch. When out lamping she runs very half hearted on rabbits that are 30 or more yards away.Does anyone know how to stop this? how hard do you work her when out, and how often do you take her out. Shes out lamping 3 times a week for 2-3 hours and out all day at the weekends if you dont work her for a week will she run the rabbits o.k then? collie blooded dogs can have some strange traits. Tryed it for 3 weeks. She was spot on last year but started doing it the first night i had her out this season my first impression is thats just the way she is as collie crosses can get this way. but as someone on this thread as mentioned it might be worth getting her checked for injury by a bone man. its funny she finished last season not doing it. then started doing at the start of this season. if anything she should be keen as hell after a long break. atb with what ever you decide to do with her. Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 the collie cur I have here will trot and read a hedge sitter before she decides to put the foot down, admittedly it annoys me to an extent but she makes up for it in other ways, its the collie style the op says that she ignores sitters in the middle, sounds as if she,s wed to the other stuff Quote Link to post
cookie 2 8 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 my first dog used to do it because i gave it stupid slips on the lamp and let it chase any rabbit through the day but would run the length of the feild for owt else i think the na that a rabbit can get straight in sometimes Quote Link to post
WILF 46,684 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 can't understand how some people would suggest shooting the dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you don't want the dog someone will. be honest with them and you'll make a friend for life. there are times when a dog has to go. but not for that What I said was, if the dog don't mean enough to the bloke to spend a few quid finding out if its physically sound by taking it to a vet, bone man or having a blood test then he may as well shoot it, now he may very well hate the dog but if your gonna keep them be prepared to put your hand in your pocket or don't keep them at all. Jmho Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 any lurcher can start walk or just trot down the beam, if it (keeps) missing it's rabbits, not just colliexs . Bryn and my other colliex Blaze that i had (never) walked down the beam, Bryn still goes down like a rocket on a rabbit, because ive have tried over 5 years to make sure what ever he ran he would catch. The dogs got to think he will catch whats in front of him, and thats down to the bloke other end of the lead ., always make them a winner To true Ray had Collie x's for years has you know. I've never had this problem with one. (IT'S A COLLIE THING APPARENTLY). 1 Quote Link to post
colliexgreyhound 119 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have a 4 year old 5/8 greyhound 3/8collie bitch. When out lamping she runs very half hearted on rabbits that are 30 or more yards away.Does anyone know how to stop this? The dog as become conditioned to a certain situation,its reacting to past experiences and acting accordingly,as certain Collie types are prone to do,its not lazy or jacking as some would have you believe.Change the situation to give the dog more stimulus,ferreting bunny,s,working free,daytime,having to use its senses to locate,run and catch,if lamping change your lamping style,use a filter,shorter and kicked up slips,no long slips and slips that have the bunny running towards cover.Stay off ground the dog is accustomed to,nothing will cure the dog fully now,they soon learn to work any situation to their individual mindset,keep changing the situation and add diversity. if i did this i would probably would only get 1 or two runs a night. most stuff is heavily lamped round me and knows the score Quote Link to post
colliexgreyhound 119 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 dunno much about dogs im still learning as im on me first lurcher but maybe if you ran her with another dog that was all in she might wanna get there first and put 100% in to again It works until shes slipped on her own again then she goes back to the same routine Quote Link to post
ernlad 118 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) WILL DIG A PIC OUT,,,ME MATES ADD 2,, VERY GOOD COLLIE X,, DOGS,,THEY WAS GREAT AND I MEAN GREAT,,,AT THE AGE OF 3 IHS,,,, AND BELEAVE ME,,,WAS HE PISSED' OFF,,, HE WORKED WITH ME IN A FACTORY, ALL DAY THE BATTERYS WUD BE ON, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NITE,,,,STRAIT AWAY STALKING NOT RUNNING,,,,I FELT FOR HIM,,,[,PRE BAN IM TALKING] FOX.S ANY THINK OTHER THAN RABBITS, WELL IT PUT MY DOGS TO SHAME,,SOME TIMES THE DOG WUD BE 2 FEILDS AWAY JAWED UP WITH SOME THINK,,,,UN,BELEAVEABE,,HOW A DOG CAN THIS WAY IN LIFE,, OVER NITE///, Edited October 17, 2012 by ernlad Quote Link to post
colliexgreyhound 119 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 This is the bitch Quote Link to post
Steveclark 9 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 She looks very fit. Why are dogs more keen on fox and deer once they have a taste from them? Is it because they're easier to catch as from my experience they're harder to catch, especially foxs. If the dogs running half hearted and only running rabbits it knows it can catch, why doesn't it do the same with the bigger stuff? Quote Link to post
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