lurchers collapsing on the lamp

[paulsmithy83 567]

Sure bird had a problem like this with his bull cross, real beaut of a animal and he was diagnosed with a lack of oxygen to the brain when working hard. I think it was something like that.

 

yeh thats right, and i had another bullx same way bred 3/8 bull 5/8 grey, and went the same but died , went over but never came round.Vet said some times the genes of the 2 breeds dont gell right, they( over heat) and carnt get oxgen quick enough to the brain and it kills them.I know of few bullxs that went the same, where as you could still get a big dog say 70-80lb x deerhoundx ,gsd x colliex and it dont happen, Had Blaze who was 3/8 collie 5/8 grey same size as what Tod was , but could run all night all fed the same and all were fit to do there job,Its the genes as my vet said some breeds when x together it works out and somtimes + dont . My new pup Buck 1x gsd x grey will be a big dog when older, but never heard any probs regards the above .!!

 

Blaze

 

Funny anough my man the only few I've ever seen do it have been bull x types they sure have drive but I think sone can seriously lack on the stamina And well half a brain Love skycat answer. No offense then love but how u run your dogs 1 spin and home as alot don't give signs they run just as hard and well to there last run then drop. This could be 10 rabbits for some dogs with little in tank even when fit ovas could be 200 runs later. Unless ur talapathic with dogs how the feck you gauge when its there last run on these tyes As the two I seen drop looked like they had many a run left

[Matt3699 142]

I have seen 2 dogs die while out hunting. 2 completely different situations but both horrible to wittness.

 

Both happened while I was living in Ireland.

 

The first time I was out coursing with a friend of mine and one of the local traveller boys, lets call him paddy.

 

Paddy had a young Saluki cross pup with him. Stunning little bitch that really showed potential. It was the first time I had been out with Paddy and I could tell immediately that he didn't really know what he was talking about / doing. He was pulling hard on the lead because the pup wasn't walking with him. It looked like it was the first time the pup had been on a lead. My friend and I kept telling him to stop pulling so hard, and tried to tell him that a pup isn't going to automatically walk perfect on a lead. It takes time.

 

Anyway... long story short he didn't listen to us and ended up pulling the lead so hard that he broke the dogs neck. Seeing a beautiful pup suffering on the ground in front of us because of a stupid f*****g owner was heart breaking. We were miles away from the nearest town. No chance of making it to a vets and the neck was clearly broken. So we had to do what we had to do to put the pup out of it's misery. Not Paddy, oh no, He could happliy break his pups neck but when it came to stopping it suffering he refused. We told Paddy to f**k off and went our separate ways. The worst part is that he didn't even act as if he cared. All he said was ''now I need a new dog'' PRICK!

 

 

 

Second time I was out lamping with 2 friends. We had 2 collie crosses and a whippet cross. The whippet had a litter of pups around 2 months ago and my friend was trying to ease her into the game again. Dogs were off the slips and we were walking through a field. Nothing about all night, only the odd rabbit here and there. We were on our way home and a Hare hopped up out of nowhere. 2 of the dogs immediately went after it and after a good long run and a good few turns one of the dogs caught it. However instead of 3 dogs, we only had 2 come back. We all knew what had happened. After a long search we found the whippet cross where the hare got up. She must of dropped immediately. Was a sad night.

 

 

EDIT:

 

I know the first story has nothing to do with the topic at hand. But felt it was somewhat on topic

Edited October 17, 2012 by Matt3699

[skycat 6,173]

Sure bird had a problem like this with his bull cross, real beaut of a animal and he was diagnosed with a lack of oxygen to the brain when working hard. I think it was something like that.

 

yeh thats right, and i had another bullx same way bred 3/8 bull 5/8 grey, and went the same but died , went over but never came round.Vet said some times the genes of the 2 breeds dont gell right, they( over heat) and carnt get oxgen quick enough to the brain and it kills them.I know of few bullxs that went the same, where as you could still get a big dog say 70-80lb x deerhoundx ,gsd x colliex and it dont happen, Had Blaze who was 3/8 collie 5/8 grey same size as what Tod was , but could run all night all fed the same and all were fit to do there job,Its the genes as my vet said some breeds when x together it works out and somtimes + dont . My new pup Buck 1x gsd x grey will be a big dog when older, but never heard any probs regards the above .!!

 

Blaze

 

Funny anough my man the only few I've ever seen do it have been bull x types they sure have drive but I think sone can seriously lack on the stamina And well half a brain Love skycat answer. No offense then love but how u run your dogs 1 spin and home as alot don't give signs they run just as hard and well to there last run then drop. This could be 10 rabbits for some dogs with little in tank even when fit ovas could be 200 runs later. Unless ur talapathic with dogs how the feck you gauge when its there last run on these tyes As the two I seen drop looked like they had many a run left

 

I doubt there's many people on here who really know how to get a dog fit, gradually building it up, increasing the work until it is near the peak of fitness. More to the point, how many people actually know when to give a dog a rest? Giving it a few days off to recover from a long hard day or night. It isn't rocket science, but it does take years of experience to really know what your'e doing with lurchers, especially as they are all so different depending on their breeding and what they are running.

 

I can honestly say that I personally only know two people who can work their dogs at the top of their game and keep them running throughout the season, running them hard at least twice a week (pre ban daytime) and giving them the right sort of exercise on the days when they're not actually running their quarry. I know there's plenty more people out there who know what they are doing, but I'm damn sure that there's plenty more who haven't a clue how to get a dog fit and keep it that way.

 

We all make mistakes when we are learning the game, and sadly its always the dogs that suffer.

[nothernlite 18,089]

Have you skycat still have your bobbery pack ?

Edited October 17, 2012 by nothernlite

[socks 32,253]

Racing greyhounds and getting them ready for top competitions so they peak at the right time taught me a lot about getting my lurchers fit and keeping them there Tegan is 8 years old this year and works nearly every day of the week on different rabbit jobs and she hasn't let me down yet ... You just have to know when your dog needs that extra bit of rest to perform to the best of its ability ..........

[paulus 26]

the problem is a lot of lads dont keep dogs long enough to even remember its name half the time let alone its physical conditioning requirements

[weasle 1,119]

Dont think,getting a dog fit is that hard,If your keen and do plenty its very simple.Its lads that have a dog in a kennel 5 days a week that can run into trouble.

But if you had a dog with a weak heart you wouldnt know about it till it droped.No matter how fit.

Ive seen race horses drop with heart attacks even seen a rider.

[skycat 6,173]

Have you skycat still have your bobbery pack ?

 

Yes: some very old, some young, but they still manage to have a bit of fun out on exercise, even if the number of foxes round here gives me even more grey hairs each time we go out.

 

The old ones are not at all fit as they let the young ones do all the graft: they just step in when needed, and cut corners: canny old things

[nothernlite 18,089]

Have you skycat still have your bobbery pack ?

 

Yes: some very old, some young, but they still manage to have a bit of fun out on exercise, even if the number of foxes round here gives me even more grey hairs each time we go out.

 

The old ones are not at all fit as they let the young ones do all the graft: they just step in when needed, and cut corners: canny old things

the older ones are wise you mean i have one hes only 3 and thats what he does good to watch atb

[Ray Mears 272]

the problem is a lot of lads dont keep dogs long enough to even remember its name half the time let alone its physical conditioning requirements

 

thats about right then they breed out of it or put it back on here for twice the money they paid for it needless to say 100% day and night

[trigger2 3,145]

I have a Lurcher that 1 month ago collapsed while on the lamp... Fit as they come showed no signs of being out of breathe but after a good run just keeled over... Lactic acid build up....2 hours under running water to get his temp down... Dog was right the next day ... To the vet for a check up... And found he had lung worm... 5 cases in this area ... Some advocate to sort them out ( drontal doesn't touch lung worm) lung worm can be caught from slugs and there trails left in feed bowls water bowls ect...

you can get tablets from the vet called milbemax they treat lung worm and tape worm in your dog not much dearer than drontal. cheaper than advocate.

[ernlad 118]

at the weekend,, around the 55,,mark my dog took turn,, he looked pissed up,, big time,,,strait away back to the motor,,,gave him a fortisip,,,drink a tin of salmon,,got the heater on for him,,with in half hour,,the dog was head butting the window when i showed him rabbits,,, got the out the car he was like freash a dog,,,, tff i add not nipt in the bud,,,who knows, what wud of apened.....some folk wud of carried on,,or too them to a cow troff,, which wud of done fack all help for the dog,,,,

Edited October 17, 2012 by ernlad

[Mooching Celt 659]

More importantly how many on here would openly admit that all they take lamping is a dog and a lamp? No back up whatsoever in the form of a simple first aid kit and a bottle of electrolyte replenisher for the dog.

 

I bet some only carry a packet of fags and a can of redbull for themselves

[ernlad 118]

More importantly how many on here would openly admit that all they take lamping is a dog and a lamp? No back up whatsoever in the form of a simple first aid kit and a bottle of electrolyte replenisher for the dog.

 

I bet some only carry a packet of fags and a can of redbull for themselves

well said mate,,,and dont for,get smelling salts,,,

[Peter4190 87]

Thats bull xs for ye all heart no stamina