more hassle for northern terrier men

[johnny 777 53]

Bearinator as you know my isn't

[HGN 150]

Johnny terrier work is much different from gun work - the spaniels tails get smashed up in brambles and thicket - mostly cut up, on occasion broken, often infections set in and gangrene because the infection can't be seen under the hair.

 

Its much better to dock ahead of having the dog suffer.

 

Edited October 16, 2012 by HGN

[BEARINATOR 2,867]

Bearinator as you know my isn't

 

I didn't realise off his pics mate , I prefer them with docked tails and got my 3 black pups docked

[johnny 777 53]

Fair enough but am not just talking about spaniels

[Grinder 102]

fetch your dog to wales and pick some birds out of the blackthorn for me.......then you will see why tails should be docked for some breeds..... a tail on a terrier can and does get in the way too..... my grandad owned 2 queen anne russel x lancashire heelers(1976 ish) .... ugly with or without there tails.... both had full tails and both got broken while working earths... both had there tails amputated...

Edited October 16, 2012 by Grinder

[johnny 777 53]

My sincerest apologies to all, it has opened my eyes. But like I said I am a terrierman

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

and as for vets the so called helpers whom were ment to rely on when our we warriors are in danger of dying. 95% of the modern day vets are against working dogs and would report to the uspca in a heartbeat and makes people think twice about going in with injured dogs

[johnny 777 53]

Fair enough, it's never happened to me but now I do realise and has change my views on this. Johnny atb

[stop.end 4,079]

Johnny sounds like you have never used a terrier for pest control?... maybe your a lab man or a lurcher man, or someone who just really has not done a lot with "WORKING BREEDS"

 

now johnny most dogs who are bred for working purposes, LOVE and LIVE for WORK...

so when a dog lets say, sees his master he gets very excited and wags his tail incessently showing his JOY, EXCITEMENT & LOVE for his master....

so when a terrier which is bred for work UNDERGROUND, works underground to quarry he is doing a job which he also LOVES & it EXCITES him, so there for a terrier who loves his job underground will incessintly wag his tail as they work....

 

So if you take into consideration the dog will be confined too tight places underground....if his tail was NOT docked they would constantly be banging their LONG tails of the side of the inside of the burrows... resulting in an even more horendous condition, than the picture of the un-docked springer that has been previously posted which in my opinon is totally cruel, instead of a 3 second nip on the tail at 3 days old when they tail is still morrow!!.. no bone or cartlidge starts to physically form in a dogs tail to after 6 days!! so in reality its like cutting a white/black pudding.

 

I dont think you realise why a terrier's tail that was bred for "WORK & WORK ONLY" would need its tail docked, hope this has helped you understand why this practise, which is over a few hundred years old and proven to not affect or harm the terrier pup any way what so ever, but is so essential to its welfare and well being in later life.....

[TUFFTY 1,476]

My sincerest apologies to all, it has opened my eyes. But like I said I am a terrierman

 

:laugh: Well thats allright then johnny the terrierman :laugh:

[johnny 777 53]

stop end. i have worked my terriers for a number of years now and i have never experienced any thing like this. no lab man

[paulcreed78 10]

No he really did read up on it

 

oh dear :laugh: :laugh:

 

So why are plummer terriers docked then?

 

Just thinking the same... and never heard anyone back then ever complain about tails being docked

Edited October 16, 2012 by paulcreed78

[OldNog 432]

HAHA there we go got to be a wind up....first of all banging on about some shit Plummer once said and now there is a photo of a plummer! Brilliant.

 

Thats why yours dont hurt its tail, because it dont bloody work

[morton 5,368]

Tail docking should be up to the individual owner,not certain organisations etc. that have little understanding of the lifestyle of a working dog.Certain working dogs suffer with entire tails and need docking.Ive never seen a terrier suffer because of a long tail,underground or on top,i think its more for appearance to dock terrier tails,same as Rotty,s,Dobermans and Weimeraner,s,yet again it should be the owners choice,its a quick simple procedure causing negligible suffering.You can take a teenager and take a blade to his John Thomas,or mutilate a lasses beaver in the name of religion,take a blade to a pups tail and all the loony left wing Lesbo,s and shirt lifting Liberals are up in arms about it,the worlds gone mental.

[johnny 777 53]

tuffty i think the reason you dont like long tails is because, well av just been looking at your interests, well hung studs what gans on there is it harder too lift a full tail than a docked one