Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 You are saying a dog can convert FAT, containing NO PROTEIN, into PROTEIN? It just doesnt add up. I seriously arent gonna waste any time researching that because thats crazy. I agree that there metabolism is different to ours but nothing can turn fat to protein. Maybe you mean that dogs use fat for energy as opposed to humans who use carbohydrate as energy??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,750 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 You are saying a dog can convert FAT, containing NO PROTEIN, into PROTEIN? It just doesnt add up. I seriously arent gonna waste any time researching that because thats crazy. I agree that there metabolism is different to ours but nothing can turn fat to protein. Maybe you mean that dogs use fat for energy as opposed to humans who use carbohydrate as energy??? FATS AND FATTYACIDS Dietary fats, mainly derived from animal fats and the seed oils of various plants, provide the most concentrated source of energy in the diet. They supply essential fatty acids that cannot be synthesized in the body and serve as carriers for important fat-soluble vitamins. Fatty acids play a role in cell structure and function. Food fats tend to enhance the taste and texture of the dog’s food as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,750 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 You are saying a dog can convert FAT, containing NO PROTEIN, into PROTEIN? It just doesnt add up. I seriously arent gonna waste any time researching that because thats crazy. I agree that there metabolism is different to ours but nothing can turn fat to protein. Maybe you mean that dogs use fat for energy as opposed to humans who use carbohydrate as energy??? yes they are essential for the convertion of other foods into proteans and essentiall acids Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,750 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 You are saying a dog can convert FAT, containing NO PROTEIN, into PROTEIN? It just doesnt add up. I seriously arent gonna waste any time researching that because thats crazy. I agree that there metabolism is different to ours but nothing can turn fat to protein. Maybe you mean that dogs use fat for energy as opposed to humans who use carbohydrate as energy??? FATS AND FATTYACIDS Dietary fats, mainly derived from animal fats and the seed oils of various plants, provide the most concentrated source of energy in the diet. They supply essential fatty acids that cannot be synthesized in the body and serve as carriers for important fat-soluble vitamins. Fatty acids play a role in cell structure and function. Food fats tend to enhance the taste and texture of the dog’s food as well. sorry that didnt copy very well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Thats Amino acids, Amino acids transport protein around the blood stream. Amino acids arent found in fat, they are found in proteins and in TRIPE. Tripe is very rich in amino acids. I dont come on here to argue and have no intention of doing so, we are all fellow hunters and should get along for the good of the sport. However, what you are saying could be very misleading... Youve just posted a few posts ago that dogs turn fat into protein and now are agreeing that dogs use fat for engergy, so a begineer could interpret that to mean that feeding fat alone is okay, and it definitely is not. Im not a scientiest or nutritionist, nor claim to be, but i know the basics and what you are typing is incorrect. Wether this is due to lack of knowledge or just struggling to get your point across on here i dont know, but Fat does not convert to Protein, and Fat does not convert anything else into protein or an essential acid. Atb Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Just seen your copy and paste, thats not talking about animal fat though mate, its talking about dietry fats. Omega 3s, etc. Very different things. Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,750 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Just seen your copy and paste, thats not talking about animal fat though mate, its talking about dietry fats. Omega 3s, etc. Very different things. Gaz Dietary fats, mainly derived from animal fats and the seed oils of various plants, provide the most concentrated source of energy in the diet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Ok so where do they turn into protein? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,750 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Ok so where do they turn into protein? i dont know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 :toast: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 You were right about the dietry fats being derived from animal fats. I was right about Fat not turning into protein. Everyones a winner. Have a nice day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,750 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 You were right about the dietry fats being derived from animal fats. I was right about Fat not turning into protein. Everyones a winner. Have a nice day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 either way..to feed tripe in bulk(everyday) means feeding other dietry essentials(same with most food stuff i suppose) so to assume tripe is good then it must also assume that feeding tripe alone alone would leave your dog woefully missing out on other vital essentials that a running/working dog needs as part of healthy balanced diet. My opinion still stands though..tripe is nothing more that a belly filler and is as trampy as fcuk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sirius 1,391 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 It's great stuff as a bulker, I use it as about 50% of my dogs daily allowance of food. No food is fine solely fed on its own, and when feeding raw food variation and having the 'eye' to know your dogs is the key to success We used to mince up 6-8 at a time plus hearts, flesh and tongues etc. I am currently using commercially prepared tripe/chicken mince, which IMO is nowhere near as good, but Like Chalkwarrens says, its getting harder to get hold of good suppliers of green tripe and other bits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Leemooch 160 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 your never serious gareth athletes have been avoiding red meat for years i should of thought a top boxer would no that it sounds like you just watched a rocky film mate do you drink 10 raw eggs in a glass as well lol steak is too heavy an athlete wants fish chicken sweet potato green veg oats how do you load your carbs and what benefit is steak or milk to any athlete milk is water platelets what use is it in an athletes diet.tripe does for a dog what steak does for a man it fills you up increases appetite meaning weight gain if your dog works daily even weekly why do you want him gaining and holding weight it's up to you how you feed gareth but your ideas are so dated Sounds to me like your trying to bring science into things too much Peter. I know alot of lads at the gym who body build and take there diets VERY seriously. I get in decent shape for a fight and dont take my diet to them extremes at all, I dont count calories or macros. I eat ALOT of red meat, and yes i drink my eggs in milk gareth you tell me off for bringing science in then you get all scientific lol look i don't like bickering it dosent matter to me what people feed but again I say if you are a top boxer you must have a trainer and dietician I'm not saying your lieing i just don't know why anyone would advise you to go backward 20 years you eat a lot of raw meat and drink a lot of milk why ? what value had it got ? no boxer or athlete these days eats lots of steak ask around look on the net Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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