Wullz 408 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Aye Moo, the oil industry is booming and nae doot there is oil under the north sea, undisputed. BUT how would an independant Scotland protect it? Anyone could walk in and plant a big rig there and help themselves. My point is, we have no navy, none.....where would we get a navy? Buy it? Build it? An airforce? An army? Eck has already said he wants rid of our main defence deterrent.....what else will he do? I hate the idea of us sitting with our erkies in the breeze and nothing covering us......we need some form of protection.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PIL 7 Posted October 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Aye Moo, the oil industry is booming and nae doot there is oil under the north sea, undisputed. BUT how would an independant Scotland protect it? Anyone could walk in and plant a big rig there and help themselves. My point is, we have no navy, none.....where would we get a navy? Buy it? Build it? An airforce? An army? Eck has already said he wants rid of our main defence deterrent.....what else will he do? I hate the idea of us sitting with our erkies in the breeze and nothing covering us......we need some form of protection.... Salmonds not worried about that he'll be nice and cosy sat somewhere in Europe counting his money . Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 It's the f*****g bullshit the snp spin. Take our submarine fleet. He wants them out of Scotland. " why should we have all the nukes" he says. Well one thing he fails to mention. The mod pay Scotland rent annually for basing our subs there, and have done for decades. I'm not entirely clued up, but it's something to do with deep lochs and they can get inland. So therefore we will lose that income. Also does he think if they went off by accident or war that we wouldn't be unscathed. Lol if they go off every citizen on this island will be affected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,743 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 It's the f*****g bullshit the snp spin. Take our submarine fleet. He wants them out of Scotland. " why should we have all the nukes" he says. Well one thing he fails to mention. The mod pay Scotland rent annually for basing our subs there, and have done for decades. I'm not entirely clued up, but it's something to do with deep lochs and they can get inland. So therefore we will lose that income. Also does he think if they went off by accident or war that we wouldn't be unscathed. Lol if they go off every citizen on this island will be affected. There's no chance of them going off by accident Scot, I think the worry is that if we entered into a conflict with a serious enemy our sub base would be a major target with them being such an effective weapons system. But feck it, that's hardly a major risk and the benefit of being part of the British Forces outweighs that i would have thought. Those subs/bases have the worlds finest guarding them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 It's not just the subs, if Salmond got his way Scotland could kiss goodbye to the armed forces work coming into the Rosythe and Govan shipyards too.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Proffitt 142 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Aye Moo, the oil industry is booming and nae doot there is oil under the north sea, undisputed. BUT how would an independant Scotland protect it? Anyone could walk in and plant a big rig there and help themselves. My point is, we have no navy, none.....where would we get a navy? Buy it? Build it? An airforce? An army? Eck has already said he wants rid of our main defence deterrent.....what else will he do? I hate the idea of us sitting with our erkies in the breeze and nothing covering us......we need some form of protection.... I would volunteer my services as Scotland's Naval Chief of Staff ... in about 3 years after I've retired from the US Navy and from my civilian career as I'm not sure how much being an Admiral in Scotland's Navy would pay. Admiral's gotta eat ,after all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Yea lol I know accident was a bad choice. Yea the bases are strategically placed and pretty well fortified in a naval aspect. Trident is different, no one really knows where they are. There at least 3 constantly on patrol, and only one at a time is ever in dock for repair or refit. I've seen trident a few year back. They are f*****g huge lol our company was doing insulation work, and we got pretty close to one.scary to think that there enough fire power in one sub to wipe out a continent +. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 It would be a sad day if ever it happened. I agree malt that decision would be a major blow to the armed forces. Surely though a serving Scot in an English regiment can stay put? Also if any scots wanted to join the English army I'm sure there wouldn't be much objection. After all Scotland has akwAys been a major recruiting ground for the British army, and lets be honest here the scots regiments were very thought of. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,267 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Aye Moo, the oil industry is booming and nae doot there is oil under the north sea, undisputed. BUT how would an independant Scotland protect it? Anyone could walk in and plant a big rig there and help themselves. My point is, we have no navy, none.....where would we get a navy? Buy it? Build it? An airforce? An army? Eck has already said he wants rid of our main defence deterrent.....what else will he do? I hate the idea of us sitting with our erkies in the breeze and nothing covering us......we need some form of protection.... I would volunteer my services as Scotland's Naval Chief of Staff ... in about 3 years after I've retired from the US Navy and from my civilian career as I'm not sure how much being an Admiral in Scotland's Navy would pay. Admiral's gotta eat ,after all. I don't think they would want a yank mate, if it kicks off they at least want a chance of winning !! Lol lol Only pulling ya leg ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Good article in the Telegraph. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/9602126/Scottish-independence-Why-would-Scotland-turn-itself-into-Greece.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Proffitt 142 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Aye Moo, the oil industry is booming and nae doot there is oil under the north sea, undisputed. BUT how would an independant Scotland protect it? Anyone could walk in and plant a big rig there and help themselves. My point is, we have no navy, none.....where would we get a navy? Buy it? Build it? An airforce? An army? Eck has already said he wants rid of our main defence deterrent.....what else will he do? I hate the idea of us sitting with our erkies in the breeze and nothing covering us......we need some form of protection.... I would volunteer my services as Scotland's Naval Chief of Staff ... in about 3 years after I've retired from the US Navy and from my civilian career as I'm not sure how much being an Admiral in Scotland's Navy would pay. Admiral's gotta eat ,after all. I don't think they would want a yank mate, if it kicks off they at least want a chance of winning !! Lol lol Only pulling ya leg ! That'd be easy I'd just call the Canadians for help 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,743 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 It would be a sad day if ever it happened. I agree malt that decision would be a major blow to the armed forces. Surely though a serving Scot in an English regiment can stay put? Also if any scots wanted to join the English army I'm sure there wouldn't be much objection. After all Scotland has akwAys been a major recruiting ground for the British army, and lets be honest here the scots regiments were very thought of. I would imagine that it would perhaps follow a similar line to the Gurkhas. It shouldn't happen but if it did I would think it would be something like that. Maybe a free Scotland would put a stop to that though to cut all military ties with the remainder of UK? Be a f*****g sad day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Aye Moo, the oil industry is booming and nae doot there is oil under the north sea, undisputed. BUT how would an independant Scotland protect it? Anyone could walk in and plant a big rig there and help themselves. My point is, we have no navy, none.....where would we get a navy? Buy it? Build it? An airforce? An army? Eck has already said he wants rid of our main defence deterrent.....what else will he do? I hate the idea of us sitting with our erkies in the breeze and nothing covering us......we need some form of protection.... I would volunteer my services as Scotland's Naval Chief of Staff ... in about 3 years after I've retired from the US Navy and from my civilian career as I'm not sure how much being an Admiral in Scotland's Navy would pay. Admiral's gotta eat ,after all. I don't think they would want a yank mate, if it kicks off they at least want a chance of winning !! Lol lol Only pulling ya leg ! Wouldn't be to sure, it was a Scotsman who founded the United States navy Edited October 12, 2012 by scothunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Good article in the Telegraph. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/9602126/Scottish-independence-Why-would-Scotland-turn-itself-into-Greece.html That's a good read.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 some very good points posted but if it did happen would you then need a passport to cross the border john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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