Non proven

[Giro 2,648]

Yeah I agree with that Chart however you would hope the one that was worked would be tested to the full and if it never really done anything that great,it would not be bred from..

 

To many clowns breeding because dogs are from "good lines" ..

 

Dogs are a lottery

[birddog 1,354]

is a potential sire / stud dog proven if he catches a thousand rabbits a season or if he produces good workers?

[chartpolski 24,296]

is a potential sire / stud dog proven if he catches a thousand rabbits a season or if he produces good workers?

 

A Sire/Stud can't be "potential", if it is producing good woorkers. Surely it would then be "proven" ?

 

Cheers.

[Guest bigdaddylongchopper]

If you have two dogs from the same litter, one owned and worked hard, and the other owned and kept as a pet; which one will be the better Sire, or will they both throw the same ? Same with bitches; two from the same litter; one worked hard and bred from only after 4 or 5 seasons of graft; and one kept purely as a brood bitch. Which will throw the best pups, or will they throw the same ?

 

Cheers.

 

its all in the blood imho,but i have bred some of my best animals,from dogs carring the same blood but one wasnt as good as the other in the field,if that makes sense.

[alex.s 19]

i have a bull x grey x sulki non proven lines and he dose me just fine

[whip x grey 276]

If you have two dogs from the same litter, one owned and worked hard, and the other owned and kept as a pet; which one will be the better Sire, or will they both throw the same ? Same with bitches; two from the same litter; one worked hard and bred from only after 4 or 5 seasons of graft; and one kept purely as a brood bitch. Which will throw the best pups, or will they throw the same ?

 

Cheers.

 

difficult one chart,,,,blood there,,,but in same way one was better than the other ,,weather it down work , speed , agillity,,,,OR EVEN ,,,not much between them,,,but the 2nd best produced the better offspring,,,as iam sure chart u know that can happen when speeds involed

 

what i go by if crossed with that fork in the road,,,is easy which one had less injurys ,,or which one had the longest career ,,ect ect ect ,,,and which one is most bidible to work with

 

but in your question one was a pet other was not,,,,its in the blood ,yes, but it aint worth the risk somtimes,,,other times best doesnt stud, its litter mate carrys on that blood line ,,,( hard to for me to say ,,as i like black and white )lol

[chartpolski 24,296]

Yeah, Bob, it's a difficult one. If two litter brothers were both scratch dogs, but one was slightly faster than the other, of course I'd use the fastest one as a stud. But would the slower one throw just as good pups as the faster one ? I remember Red Baron and Warlord, ( Bilko x Young Lucy), litter brothers, both tremendous scratch dogs, but Red Baron was the fastest, and got the most bitches by far !! Would Warlords pups have been as good ? Hard to tell.

 

Cheers.

[undisputed 1,664]

Any boby ever bought a pup from non working parents and the pup turned out really good?

 

Yip 3 times

[reddawn 2,173]

Any boby ever bought a pup from non working parents and the pup turned out really good?

 

you????

[Romany 1,065]

I always loveeeeeee these threads

[chartpolski 24,296]

I always loveeeeeee these threads

 

I'd have though you would have a good input into a thread like this, Bill .

 

Cheers.

[Romany 1,065]

Me.....aint got a f*****g clue matie

[MOO 730]

what about hancock dogs many a good dog have came from them and they are non working parents

name 2 then

[MOO 730]

I always loveeeeeee these threads

Arite Bill I was on the hill on tues with a lad that knows you Darren .......he is on the cover of your book slipping the deerhounds ....a good lad ....good craic

[undisputed 1,664]

what about hancock dogs many a good dog have came from them and they are non working parents

name 2 then

 

pups or parents?