nod 285 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Starting this topic due to a pm. How many foxes that you catch in snares are dead. Snares are not designed to kill they are designed to hold. Quote Link to post
heritage 202 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 This can be a difficult question to answer as there are so many variables, geography plays a large part as does things like the type of snare used or the operator.....it seems only recently that snares have been re-branded as restraint devices rather than being tools to catch and kill the intended target. so......my last 2 foxes (not many,i know) were alive and well, my old mentor has recently took 9 and all of these were also alive and well ,these catches were made using several types of home made snares all set in accordance with uk regs although all were used with crimped on deerstops and added jumpsticks. Quote Link to post
logun 91 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 depends on how they set up,, i could catch 100 live in a hundread catches or a 100 dead if i wanted .to catch dead foxes in live catch snares you either setting where they should not be set or the snares set wrong. Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 One or two when I started, but as Logun said, I set them in the wrong place, or rather I set them wrong, in the right place. Setting there again I'd attach the snare to a non return wire into the field, and not on to the fence. Quote Link to post
unclepesta 101 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 depends on how they set up,, i could catch 100 live in a hundread catches or a 100 dead if i wanted .to catch dead foxes in live catch snares you either setting where they should not be set or the snares set wrong. This can be a difficult question to answer as there are so many variables, geography plays a large part as does things like the type of snare used or the operator.....it seems only recently that snares have been re-branded as restraint devices rather than being tools to catch and kill the intended target. so......my last 2 foxes (not many,i know) were alive and well, my old mentor has recently took 9 and all of these were also alive and well ,these catches were made using several types of home made snares all set in accordance with uk regs although all were used with crimped on deerstops and added jumpsticks. the new laws and guidlines have changed the whole concept of sets and snare types and end results,people who set gates fences and rough ground in old fashion sense will have to totally stop and re educate on it all cos even using right snare will result in kill on these areas by most due to entanglement in trees fences and such,its gonna reduce setting options. Quote Link to post
heritage 202 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Not really.....every time the laws changes you simply adopt a new style of set.., in some circumstances where there is risk of entanglement you could adopt a slide system such as the one shown in gsw's pinned article, in others a simple reduction in snare length may suffice.....it's important to develop new ways and ideas of to stay legal and safeguard the future of snaring......Atb Quote Link to post
unclepesta 101 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Not really.....every time the laws changes you simply adopt a new style of set.., in some circumstances where there is risk of entanglement you could adopt a slide system such as the one shown in gsw's pinned article, in others a simple reduction in snare length may suffice.....it's important to develop new ways and ideas of to stay legal and safeguard the future of snaring......Atb the law has taken quit a interest in snaring thats why im saying its all new concepts and i pretty much mean all from prefered sets to required,locks,eyelets,stops.. to not killing to being trained, from this people like myself will need to do a fair bit of homework and commit fair amount of time and resources changing everything make new wires take a day to sit a course its probably gonna cost a few hundred pounds to go from old to new,im gettin right back into it and i enjoy the new ideas,you sound like a snarer who has mentor and teacher some dont,thats why i say buy 1st so you know its right and your on the right track.the path to success for a beginer can be hard,the person mentioned has spoken to me about slides ect ect,it was all new to me his ideas are the way forward,joe bloggs wont get the advice anywhere you have to search,this site is good but i think we all can contribute perspectives and improve,i aint really learning much from here but i did from g.w and woodga on snares. Quote Link to post
heritage 202 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 You are right.....I have an interest in snare building / trapping and I have been helped along the way.....the laws are due to change but I think that with a little thought & continued development we should be able to safe guard the future of snaring.....I'm no expert, a keen amateur at best but I try and contribute as and where I can ....Atb Quote Link to post
unclepesta 101 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 You are right.....I have an interest in snare building / trapping and I have been helped along the way.....the laws are due to change but I think that with a little thought & continued development we should be able to safe guard the future of snaring.....I'm no expert, a keen amateur at best but I try and contribute as and where I can ....Atb keep at it you obviously enjoy it and its a skill worth knowing more people should learn it cos it is a life preserving skill,such skills could stop starvation within future communitys like it was in ww2.. if the film 'threads' ww3 actually happens.. its gonna be bleak no more eastenders and bye bye tesco lol Quote Link to post
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