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i will be getting one after x ,mas regardless of what people say about it. i think people knock the dogs because of what hancock does and not based on the dogs themself. i have seen one of the best dogs i have seen was off hancock and was truley a all rounder. it might not be everybodys cup of tea but at least you no what your getting from him :thumbs:

 

 

top pics birddog he is a looker

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alot of people slate him but 90% of the people who do havent even had dogs from him they just dont like the fact he breeds for a living atleast you get what you ask for when he is breading the collie greyhounds which cant be said for half the dogs out there i have another pup booked they were born early hours thursday morning the bitch i have now i am more than happy with

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alot of people slate him but 90% of the people who do havent even had dogs from him they just dont like the fact he breeds for a living atleast you get what you ask for when he is breading the collie greyhounds which cant be said for half the dogs out there i have another pup booked they were born early hours thursday morning the bitch i have now i am more than happy with

 

off what parents ???

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i will be getting one after x ,mas regardless of what people say about it. i think people knock the dogs because of what hancock does and not based on the dogs themself. i have seen one of the best dogs i have seen was off hancock and was truley a all rounder. it might not be everybodys cup of tea but at least you no what your getting from him :thumbs:

 

 

top pics birddog he is a looker

 

not saying you carnt get a good dog from him,! but dont like the fact his dogs( collie + colliex studs and grey dams) are stuck in the kennels 24/7, and never see a rabbits .i think in the 80s he tested few studs , but not now . Thats why i would never go there, not saying its got to be worker-worker either, as most lines start with 1xs .just rather have pup from parents that been out in the fields thats seen bit of quarry .!

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i will be getting one after x ,mas regardless of what people say about it. i think people knock the dogs because of what hancock does and not based on the dogs themself. i have seen one of the best dogs i have seen was off hancock and was truley a all rounder. it might not be everybodys cup of tea but at least you no what your getting from him :thumbs:

 

 

top pics birddog he is a looker

 

not saying you carnt get a good dog from him,! but dont like the fact his dogs( collie + colliex studs and grey dams) are stuck in the kennels 24/7, and never see a rabbits .i think in the 80s he tested few studs , but not now . Thats why i would never go there, not saying its got to be worker-worker either, as most lines start with 1xs .just rather have pup from parents that been out in the fields thats seen bit of quarry .!

 

Might get myself slated for this but do you think it makes a difference what the parents have seen. Not that I am a fan of 24/7 kennelling. My poor dogs get dragged out at least 2x a day even if it's only for 10 mins in a Blizzard (regardless of whether they want to or not! :laugh: ).

However surely a lot of how a dog behaves comes from natural instinct and how it is raised. If it is taken from the parents at 8 weeks and raised in a working environment surely it will learn behaviour from it's owner and other dogs. What I mean is if a dog comes from a breed with a hunting instinct that instinct can not be simply bred out of it by not allowing previous generations to hunt.

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i will be getting one after x ,mas regardless of what people say about it. i think people knock the dogs because of what hancock does and not based on the dogs themself. i have seen one of the best dogs i have seen was off hancock and was truley a all rounder. it might not be everybodys cup of tea but at least you no what your getting from him :thumbs:

 

 

top pics birddog he is a looker

 

not saying you carnt get a good dog from him,! but dont like the fact his dogs( collie + colliex studs and grey dams) are stuck in the kennels 24/7, and never see a rabbits .i think in the 80s he tested few studs , but not now . Thats why i would never go there, not saying its got to be worker-worker either, as most lines start with 1xs .just rather have pup from parents that been out in the fields thats seen bit of quarry .!

 

Might get myself slated for this but do you think it makes a difference what the parents have seen. Not that I am a fan of 24/7 kennelling. My poor dogs get dragged out at least 2x a day even if it's only for 10 mins in a Blizzard (regardless of whether they want to or not! :laugh: ).

However surely a lot of how a dog behaves comes from natural instinct and how it is raised. If it is taken from the parents at 8 weeks and raised in a working environment surely it will learn behaviour from it's owner and other dogs. What I mean is if a dog comes from a breed with a hunting instinct that instinct can not be simply bred out of it by not allowing previous generations to hunt.

 

 

 

intresting post mate. i dont think having a dog from working lines is the be all and end all to having a good dog at all. surley a vast amout is how it is brought up and trained and how much quarry it gets to run and so on ??

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