Giro 2,648 Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) everyday I cant see the point risking a dog for one shitty frosty night, when the next night could be gale force with sideways rain.. Work with the weather moons up go daytime, frosty go out with the stinkers, summer drink beer relax.. Just how i do it, sickener for me if I injure me dog with being to keen.. Done it ran my dog on hard ground in summer and frosty ground.. Got away with it on the frost could see the dog struggling turning and slowing up,caught a few boucing them off stone walls bigger feilds longer runs I would predict trouble I went home while I was a head. Mid summer knocked toes, dislocated me fawn bitches toe wanting to get some easy runs Edited October 4, 2012 by Giro Quote Link to post
dimmock20 278 Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I think you just need to be sensible pick what fields you run and know your dog, some dogs can run all day on frosty ground without injury some carnt. Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 There is a significant difference between a hard frost and the top milimeter when its soft underneath.. For some folk its common practise running in frost?? Its not for me anyway Quote Link to post
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 lads the dogs we use arent mde of glass they dont shatter or fall to bits when running summer ,winter autumn or spring theyre more at risk of getting ripped on barbed wire fences that anything, the best time to get foxes to ground is in the frosty snowy daysso if we stopped running on frosty hard ground howd we catch the bolters? Quote Link to post
JAE B 549 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 the ginger fellas will be flying soon lol carnt wait :boogy: Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 lads the dogs we use arent mde of glass they dont shatter or fall to bits when running summer ,winter autumn or spring theyre more at risk of getting ripped on barbed wire fences that anything, the best time to get foxes to ground is in the frosty snowy daysso if we stopped running on frosty hard ground howd we catch the bolters? I have had my share of foot injuries.. Running dogs come with risk of injury however some injuries can be avoided.. I am sure its more of a gamble running 30 odd rabbits on a hard frost compared to one fox.. If foxing was my bag I would use a net and have lurcher on hand if it slipped the net. My dogs aint made of glass and take plenty of knocks but where possible I will attemp to steer them away from harm. Quote Link to post
Tiny 7 1,694 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Iam along the line's of Giro, When the moon's up ferreting and flushing in the day for me, And if there is a decent frost then no i dont bother really lamping unless the cattle/sheep feilds are alright for a spin if not more ferreting again ratting ect, Iv done it run mine when it was just that bit too hard and its knocked them up for a month/6 wk's for the sake of one night/day Quote Link to post
Tiny 7 1,694 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Just too add theres frost and then theres frost, Iam talking frozen ground here that you cant push your finger in..... As rule thats what i try and gaugde it on if i cant stick my fingers in the ground then is too hard for them too run on 2 Quote Link to post
frankel 2,123 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I would never run my dogs on hard frost. Its just a broken toe or damaged wrist waiting to happen Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 never run on frosty ground but like chart says its up to the owner realy my old dog hurt his toes so i dont bother at all Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 T7 that how I guage it... Its not worth the risk for me and i value me dogs health over a few rabbits I have ran a hard frost once and would honestly say never again it was my own pigheadedness after driving 50 miles but after a few runs I gave myself a shake. Two nights later filled the freezer I have ran on termac by mistake and got away with it but dont plan on doing that again either 1 Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 a hard long lasting frost that doesn't lift during the day is a definate no no, but like others have said there are other hazards out there, we ferret in woods a lot not a lot of frost but branches roots and wire can be a nightmare, jazz has pulled a nail off twice on tarmac both times my cock up.... had her off the lead in a local lane where i've never seen a rabbit before the other i grabbed at quarry in a gate net maybe too soon and it ran up the road.... both times back running in a couple of weeks with no long term bother...... we cant wrap them in cotton wool but sometimes commonsense has to prevail 1 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Also depends on the dog,Ihave a fast dog here and at 6 shes broken up,At least partly my fault running when its been a dry Autumn running her around forestry's.The dog only knows one way and thats full on. Other dogs though will not run flat out if they feel the ground is hard. But at the end of the day you can nearly guarantee that if you take the dog out for some ferreting in the frosty weather or ground thats been cut up by livestock, in dry weather something will jump up to give the dogs a real run. All you can do is try the rest is down to luck. Quote Link to post
earlystart 56 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Also depends on the dog,Ihave a fast dog here and at 6 shes broken up,At least partly my fault running when its been a dry Autumn running her around forestry's.The dog only knows one way and thats full on. Other dogs though will not run flat out if they feel the ground is hard. But at the end of the day you can nearly guarantee that if you take the dog out for some ferreting in the frosty weather or ground thats been cut up by livestock, in dry weather something will jump up to give the dogs a real run. All you can do is try the rest is down to luck. what we need is a x that can cope with all weather condition good brain good feet and structure made for winter which is when our dogs work most but I can't think of one;) Quote Link to post
dimmock20 278 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 How do salukis run on hard ground in sure they would cope? Quote Link to post
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