Ant9x 25 Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Yesterday, I had a council contractor round doing a survey, within an hour of him leaving I had the police round to inspect my guns The police left, happy with the fact that they are all legal and above board. Today I got a call from one of the Senior Housing Officers and it now Seems I may be made homeless soon, apparently I store offensive weapons. Under section 6.8 of the Council Tenancy Agreement "You must not keep any Firearm, Shotgun, Air Rifle or any other offensive weapon that could not be legally carried in public at the property, without our written permission to do so. Before granting this permission we will need to inspect yout gun licence". All my guns are sub 12 so I dont need a license for them and I am perfectly within the law if I carry my guns in public, if I have a lawfull reason to do so. For example if I am going to a range, taking them to the gun shop to sell or having purchased one and taking it home or carrying it to and from my permissions. Why are people so f*****g scared of people of guns? Looks like every one in council houses are going to be kicked out of their property, because a kitchen knife is an offensive weapon that you are not allowed legally to carry in public. I am so f*****g sick of the f*****g media induced paranoia of this f*****g f****d up country Tony This is outrageous, I would consider the following.Contact Clive Rees specialist legal advice Free on 07969 378750 or e-mail clive_rees@yahoo.co.uk Contact BASA ( British Airgun Shooters Association ) 0844 848 8057 Worth joining at £17.95 a year, £2 million third party insurance and other benefits Contact Airgun World Magazine via www.airgunshooting.co.uk They may be interested in supporting you. Good Luck Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 are you a BASC MEMBER 1 Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 personally i'd get some solisiter advice asap.. then retourn the shitty with a gentle smile. theres one or three jumped up snerts on the rising in the local assosiasions today, trying to make names for them selves. i made a point of introding it to the guy when i signed the deeds... think its a way of getting rid of arse hole tennents .. so careful on your next move. but as stated above you are aloud to carry it in public in a case, besides, using it to evict is going to cause one hell of a stink, especialy as your legal beever there. Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 This is another turn of how this country has become a nation of snoopers and bloody do-gooders screwing life up for ordinary folks who just want to quietly get on without being a nuisance to anyone. You are not breaking the Law Tony. You have the legal right to own your guns. Pity council pen-pushers and spineless wankers who work for them cannot be so equally vigilant and pro-active against Muslim extremists living on housing and council tax benefits among their tenants. Never see one of these f*****g ragheads down the dole office being asked what they've done about looking for work! And f*ck the "rules on racism"! It's the truth! 5 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,785 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 hi tony dont let them get you down your with in your rights after all it was the goverment that said we dont need a airgun licence for a rifle that is under 12 ftp here,s some thing that will cheer you up mate i was on one of my permisions that has caravans and campers on it not so long ago and im walking along and this old guy pops out of his camper and shouts what you doing mate there i am all dressed in camo gear, boots, sas mask , and gloves with my rifle across my arms so i said whats it look like im going fishing :laugh: :laugh: chin up mate got my fingers crost atvbmac 2 Quote Link to post
toby63 1,236 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 am sure sumet will get sorted phantom Quote Link to post
rexdigger 54 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Sorry to say this but it's a good old case of tell nobody nowt all guns should be kept in a gunsafe out of the way even if being repaired just because they're air guns doesnt make them any less lethal also if he's told his bosses who else might he have told ie mates down the pub local scallys etc I would be more worried about having my house robbed than pen pushers IMO as has been said before though an air gun unless fac does not require a licence so you should be ok on the council side of things but get a nice big cabinet for your guns ;-) Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Just had a look at wording of your agreement Tony. "You must not keep (blah-bloody-blah) or any other offensive weapon that cannot be legally carried in public at the property" Cannot be legally carried in public at the property...? 1. Your council house/flat is not a public place. It's your home and privacy of it is yours. 2. You can carry any sporting firearm in a public place in a sealed/secure gunslip. 3. You do not require a license for your guns therefore you cannot possibly produce one for their "inspection". (Pathetic!) 4. The police are satisfied your air rifles do not contravene any laws regarding their power or likely misuse from you. Against this. try asking them for written permission to hold them at your place, if that's what these buggers want. Unless you do something stupid and threaten your neighbours with them, they have no legal ground to evict you as far as I can see. Have a chat with a solicitor and see what your protections and rights are from this bollocks. Council officials, I f*****g detest them. Best wishes mate. Simon 2 Quote Link to post
Buster321c 1,010 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Clive Reece will give you free legal advise . I e-mailed him over something a year or so back and he rang me twice with advise , and also a few weeks later to make sure it was sorted . 1 Quote Link to post
Ant9x 25 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Please keep us posted on any developments. Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) I doubt they could enforce anything anyway. Evictions aren't based on laws made up by busy-bodies in the council. Hope it turns out well for you mate. Edited October 6, 2012 by walshie 1 Quote Link to post
Acuspell 329 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 This is something being raised by a clip board driver who simply doesn't know the law. Sleep easy. They might make a song and dance, but what the housing officer has said has no basis in law. The council cannot dictate what activity you carry you out that is within the law, even if they don't like it. You could be a knife thrower and keep your knives at home, otherwise illegal knives perhaps, but not in the context of your activity as a knife thrower. Now, I can see the confusion from the Housinng Officer - if you were keeping illegally held firearms (as in pistols or other illegal firearms - and you lot know exactly what I mean, so don't go spouting air guns as firearms to me in this matter) then I am sure you could be evicted, because you would be carrying out illegal activities on the councils' premises, contrary to the rental agreement. 2 Quote Link to post
The Duncan 802 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Yesterday, I had a council contractor round doing a survey, within an hour of him leaving I had the police round to inspect my guns The police left, happy with the fact that they are all legal and above board. Today I got a call from one of the Senior Housing Officers and it now Seems I may be made homeless soon, apparently I store offensive weapons. Under section 6.8 of the Council Tenancy Agreement "You must not keep any Firearm, Shotgun, Air Rifle or any other offensive weapon that could not be legally carried in public at the property, without our written permission to do so. Before granting this permission we will need to inspect yout gun licence". All my guns are sub 12 so I dont need a license for them and I am perfectly within the law if I carry my guns in public, if I have a lawfull reason to do so. For example if I am going to a range, taking them to the gun shop to sell or having purchased one and taking it home or carrying it to and from my permissions. Why are people so f*****g scared of people of guns? Looks like every one in council houses are going to be kicked out of their property, because a kitchen knife is an offensive weapon that you are not allowed legally to carry in public. I am so f*****g sick of the f*****g media induced paranoia of this f*****g f****d up country Tony hi mate,ive read somewhere that they cannot do it,its an infringment of your human rights and a phone call to basc or any other organization will back you up(in court if needed)...bill harriman has had this one thrown at him and he says the above!!!!!! You are quite correct. 1 Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Yesterday, I had a council contractor round doing a survey, within an hour of him leaving I had the police round to inspect my guns The police left, happy with the fact that they are all legal and above board. Today I got a call from one of the Senior Housing Officers and it now Seems I may be made homeless soon, apparently I store offensive weapons. Under section 6.8 of the Council Tenancy Agreement "You must not keep any Firearm, Shotgun, Air Rifle or any other offensive weapon that could not be legally carried in public at the property, without our written permission to do so. Before granting this permission we will need to inspect yout gun licence". All my guns are sub 12 so I dont need a license for them and I am perfectly within the law if I carry my guns in public, if I have a lawfull reason to do so. For example if I am going to a range, taking them to the gun shop to sell or having purchased one and taking it home or carrying it to and from my permissions. Why are people so f*****g scared of people of guns? Looks like every one in council houses are going to be kicked out of their property, because a kitchen knife is an offensive weapon that you are not allowed legally to carry in public. I am so f*****g sick of the f*****g media induced paranoia of this f*****g f****d up country Tony Tony thats got to be some sort of joke what I just read. WTF is this country coming to when a guy like yourself stays well within the law with no illegal issues, yet some scumbags in a shithole council house carry and keep every offensive weapon you can think off either on their premises or car on pretty much on their goodselves It seems laws and rules are made everyday in this country these days without any oposition, laws get passed through parlament with never hear about until it effects us in someway. it seems the backbone is slowly being snapped in the UK now. years ago we would sit back and look at comunist countries in disbeleif at some of things that went on! it now looks like they are becoming more westernised and easy going and we are on the reverse...... Quote Link to post
Ant9x 25 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I have just informed the editor of Airgun World of this situation, giving him brief details of the circumstances in the hope of some support. Although I feel nothing will come of proceedings against Phantom, I regard this as another attempt by anti's to attack fieldsports in general. This is a scatter gun approach by them in the hope that they get a hit now and again needs to be resisted. 1 Quote Link to post
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