223 FMJ v 223 ballistic?

[masmiffy 82]

We have always used Hornady 55 grain ballistic tip on fox.

Our 'local' supplier has some Remington 55 grain FMJ available at £9 a box!!

Any disadvantage in using these opposed to the ballastic's

[riohog 5,701]

i wouldnt use fmj,s they are likely to go straight through and god knows were i prefer expanding amo

[tegater 789]

Straight through and produce a greater risk of ricochet.

[JohnGalway 1,043]

As above, don't use them on fox. BT, HP, SN, plenty of safer (IMO) options.

[TWOTWOTHREE 152]

Hi

I wouldn't try then personally it will be a through and through and anywhere kinda shot, stick to what u use or other brands that expand and less chance of a unsafe shot,

Atb

223

 

[masmiffy 82]

OK in next breath anyone tried Prvi Partizan in 223

Edited October 4, 2012 by masmiffy

[remi700 99]

Stick to your v-max. FMJ's are target ammo. I've shot prvi partisans and they didn't work for me but i got magtechs for the same money and they grouped fine. It depends on your rifle. You won't get the same kills with soft points that you will with v-max but they're not bad.

[Rhodey 96]

Before you buy them check on your ticket that it allows you to have them. Most say expanding ammo.

[Skull Hooker 185]

Its not on using FMJ on foxes.

Pelt hunters are the only one with a case for using them at all.

Prvi Partisan aren't bad ammo. I shot .243 with them through my Tikka T3.

Good groups under 1" at 100

Cheap an all

[nod 285]

does it matter if the bullet goes through, how many times do you shoot rabbits with the .22 and the bullet stays in the rabbit. if your shooting at a fox then you have found a safe shot to shoot, backstop should be behind all shots?

[nod 285]

Before you buy them check on your ticket that it allows you to have them. Most say expanding ammo.

 

if its not on his ticket then the shop shouldnt sell them in the firs place

[tegater 789]

does it matter if the bullet goes through, how many times do you shoot rabbits with the .22 and the bullet stays in the rabbit. if your shooting at a fox then you have found a safe shot to shoot, backstop should be behind all shots?

When a bullet exits any animal, it means that some of the energy of that bullet hasn't been used, or dumped, in that animal. An expanding bullet, as against a fmj which is not designed to expand, creates a bigger surface area as it expands, dumping more energy, and at the same time crushing and tearing body tissue and bones.

This will generally result in greater shock to the animal, and more likelihood of death if the bullet doesn't hit the brain/heart/lung area.

[Wino 3]

OK in next breath anyone tried Prvi Partizan in 223

 

I honestly think the low price of these can actually put people off. For a foxing round they're fine. If you're looking at scoring three hits on a 5p piece a long way away then maybe not.

[halamrose 24]

Surely the point of FMJ is to not be so likely to be lethal hence the requirement for their being used in military applications as per Hague convention? http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/instree/1899f.htm

[tegater 789]

They have to be fmj for military, not because they are less lethal, but because expanding is prohibited because of the horrific injuries that can occur, that then are more difficult to repair. That is my understanding anyway. I think it all stemmed from the prohibition of Dum Dum bullets.

As a result of that though, more people probably survive, as a result of being shot with fmj than they would with expanding.

 

I am quite sure a hole host of ammo gets used overseas at this minute in time