Patterdale cross breeding with Staffs

[J Darcy 5,871]

What needs to be remembered if bull are to be added, is that it is the correct bull. No point in adding any old shit, that has been done before. When plummer added bull to his dogs i was lucky enough to see one "work". a huge strapping dog, but it was totally bottleless and wouldnt even go in a hole end.

You need the gameness or you may as well use a street mongrel IMHO.

I'm sure you,ve seen terriers with plenty of bull in them work well over here, Thinking of one terrier man in perticular

[Guest Haggler]

F*cking Hell, Haggler! That Dog has charisma!

 

Ditch, He is a powerful little shit full of attitude.

 

 

The trainer wanted to leave him white but the producer made all those decision and had that funky makeup put on him.

 

 

Workingdogz, you are right, it was Son of Mask Bear was in. Steve has used him in a bunch of commercials and other stuff since.

 

Haggler

[Guest ROOSTER]

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Edited June 25, 2007 by ROOSTER

[robbie g 42]

few more

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

really smart looking dog

[Guest ragumup]

Your right i can't stand the look of that man on page 98 he just looks wrong i once bred a litter of first cross staff and kept a small bitch back and after 18 months of careful entering it jibbed so it was a waste of time but you live and learn, i would agree that a lot of staffs are now no way near as game as a lot of patts today the first pic is of he bull cross the second is a pic one of my patt bitches now

[Guest oldskool]

this is the fella i parted with, he was out of a working staff to a wee short legged dachsund type russell... he was a bit too stocky but i reckon if i would have picked the small bitch in the litter instead of the dog i would have had something better... he only had a few digs and he seemed to be quite a level headed sorta dog... his new owner wouldnt take all the tea in china for him

 

 

[lonedigga 23]

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[THE POACHER 13]

if i could have another dog like the one i put up id take it he was turning into a good tool if theres bull blood in them or not as long as they get the job done thats all that matters to me

[Pipey Magregor 0]

Yeah, by the sounds of it, if you're to cross Bull types with your smaller working terriers then just make sure you pick a game enough bull to do it with.

 

I can imagine a top cross being a right handfull.

 

The Poacher, your cross looked bang on mate, if he worked as good as he looked then that would of been some dog.

[AKA-BRINDLE 879]

this is the fella i parted with, he was out of a working staff to a wee short legged dachsund type russell... he was a bit too stocky but i reckon if i would have picked the small bitch in the litter instead of the dog i would have had something better... he only had a few digs and he seemed to be quite a level headed sorta dog... his new owner wouldnt take all the tea in china for him

 

 

 

scuse my ignorance old skool but [bANNED TEXT] is a "short legged dashund type russell"????...my brother came back from Belfast with a dog we have all been taking the piss out of! which he swears is a pedigree russel...short stumpy little legs...muzzel like a collie...big old ears like a german shepard...looks a right freak!and hung like a donkey! would this be some Northern Irish hybrid???

[Pipey Magregor 0]

I think that JRT X of Old Skools looks the business.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

I think most of you lads would be surprised at how much bull blood there is in the make up of our pats today.Not many of the well known breeders will admit to it but those they sell to certainly have . .Admittidly most lines are now bred true but its there all the same .IMO ,there is no need what so ever to add bull to a proven line of pats ,it takes several generations to get back to size and for what -a bigger head .Straight bulls have thier place but please leave them out of the pat .

[Kane 2]

imo people think that the bigger the head the harder the dog. :blink:its a load of s..t , they have been doing the job for hundreds of years with out adding any staff blood etc, as the saying goes "if it aint broke dont fix it"..... ps like the look of yours on your other post..

 

If you could trace a patterdales or any other working terriers bloodlines back a couple of hundred years you would find more than a bit of bull blood in it JMO

[alimac 882]

imo people think that the bigger the head the harder the dog. :blink:its a load of s..t , they have been doing the job for hundreds of years with out adding any staff blood etc, as the saying goes "if it aint broke dont fix it"..... ps like the look of yours on your other post..

 

If you could trace a patterdales or any other working terriers bloodlines back a couple of hundred years you would find more than a bit of bull blood in it JMO

 

that may well be true, but i think the original question was "is there need to add staff blood to patt" i took this to be adding it to the fells/patts of today.. ok i could of worded my orig replie a little better :whistle:

[Guest john2007oliver]

No mate it means big heart NOT no brains... shows a lack of understanding on your part

Poacher; allways wondered how the dog in your avatar was put together....very nice mate...shame he did'nt get the chance to show his full potential

 

 

I have to agree with you there mate, my pure staff is a bloody clever sod, mixed with her heart for the kill its unbelievable. Granted she's a pet and has been brought up that way but on several occasions she's prove herself to fear nothing, but still keeps her witts about her.

 

Saying bull breeds are stupid is the same as saying APBT are all evil killers. Its just not true, that just the rep, and its old wives tales, they have purely becuase they ARE "capabile"