Patterdale cross breeding with Staffs

[bracken28 0]

 

 

No mate it means big heart NOT no brains... shows a lack of understanding on your part

 

 

got nowt to do with lack of understanding,

as in earths that are totaly un diggable i can see that this type of dog would be a valid asset

in a pest controlers armary, but just cant see the point in having a dog so hard it gets bashed to bits

every time he's used then having to rest him till he heals, (im talking pre ban of course)

I do agree that these little worriors need heart, gameness and brains, but if people bred from

only the best stock to start with there would be no need to add bull blood of any sort,

and i have dug to a good few of this type of terrier in the past and some of them have been very good indeed,, but all im saying is that the bad far out number the good

[Branch 0]

I had a staff x jack and it was with out doubt the hardest f**cker I have owned I’m sure I will live to be with out him but he was the best I have had to date miss you fellow…..he died last Sunday two years old shit happens

[Guest Haggler]

jesus that dog looks like the one from the film the mask! looks the nuts

 

Here is the JRT from the "Return of the Mask" which was a funky movie but this all white Jack, Bear, played his part well. We bred him and gave him to the trainer for the movie.

 

 

This is what he looked like before all the make up.

 

 

He now knows over 200 commands and can dance on a beach ball.

 

Haggler

Edited June 16, 2007 by Haggler

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

F*cking Hell, Haggler! That Dog has charisma! I don't care how many commands it knows or what it can do on a beach ball ~ I've never seen the films either ~ But I'd just about Die for a Dog of that stamp!

 

I was born, raised and lived most of my life on the central south coast where JR's were the only terrier we knew. I've seen about every concievable 'Look' and type. Never seen anything quite as breath taking as That! F*ck I'm impressed by that Dog!

 

For the record mate; I don't care any more about shows than I do about digging holes, or what anyone thinks of what I think. But, by christ, it took me some effort just to get me eyes off him to come in here and write this!

 

I have a bitch here who I bought out of a bucket at a horse sales. Life times experiance of looking at these Dogs told me she would be my type. She's grown into perfection. But she's a bitch and so much more delicate than him. Had I gone for a Dog pup and he'd turned out looking like that? I'd be delerious!

 

Please forgive me whilst I nick that shot and salt it away. I want to be able to point to it and tell anyone who'll listen that 'This represents my Ideal JR. Bred by some guy called " Haggler ", in US.'

 

Irony is, here in Eire, people so snear at me when I call my Dog a JR, I've given up bothering and just refer to her as my " Small Dog ". Here, if it has legs more than three inches long and with any sign of straightness? It's not considered a 'real' JR! Still; Who am I to say?

 

 

Pipey; Getting back to ye original question, mate: As I understood it, it started in US where they cossed Pit Bull's with Patterdales. Why? Probably so they could advertise them with the irresistable name of .......... Wait for it ....! " PitaPat's " $$$$$

 

I also heard they turned out as stark raving lunatics.

[Guest oldskool]

i'll have to hoke out the book again but i think plummer mentioned a lad in his 'the complete jack russell' book that added bull terrier blood every 10 or so generations when his stock was developing snipey jaws????? at the time i was only about 12 or 13 yr old but i remember thinking that it was a good idea... now i think i have mixed feelings on it... if you considered a weak jaw as a flaw in a working terrier and wanted to avoid bull blood then what would the answer be ??? that will probably sound daft when i go away from the screen and come back again but do most strong headed terriers originate from a mating to a bull terrier at some point in their ancestry???? my amatuer (very amatuer) theory was that if bred to a bull then all pups would have equal or fairly equal heads but when bred to a terrier with a strong jaw then would the pups not be a mixture of some snipey and some strong??? Now then, forgetting about looks, the other thing i was wondering and needing to ask is that bull cross terriers cant all be hard and sillly buggers... i recently parted with a russell x staff and he was showing good promise although it was early days and when i dug to him he seemed to be a fairly level headed sorta dog... dont embarrass me folks

[workindogz 0]

i was thinking he looked like milo wearing the mask ! have been looking for pics but cant find any!

your dog was in the son of mask wasnt it?

Moose was in the first one then he did fraiser i think, i liked the mask but was olny 11 at the time came out in 1994

anyone with pics of milo wearing the mask could you post them would love to see it again and youll see what i mean about poachers dog!

[Guest digdeep]

few more

 

 

 

 

 

 

the stocky stunner

[Pipey Magregor 0]

Seems theres a few differing oppinions here, which makes it all the more interesting.

 

To those that dont like the idea of crossing Pat's and Bull types, are you talking from personal experience working with these crosses?

 

I do agree that these little worriors need heart, gameness and brains, but if people bred from only the best stock to start with there would be no need to add bull blood of any sort

 

Thats about right realy isnt it, but in saying that I surpose not everyone can get their hands on the latest and greatest finest stock of working dog.

 

The Poacher, That JR X Staff is/was an incredible looking dog, he just looks so powerfull !

 

Haggler that JRT looks the business aswell.

[pointer28 1]

Buy Sean Frain's book "The Patterdale Terrier".

 

That'll tell ya absolutely everything there is to know about Buck/Breay etc. and what "came from the loins of" which dog, and who "begot" who.

 

Now, I'm just gonna sit here and wait for the replies.

[Pipey Magregor 0]

Buy Sean Frain's book "The Patterdale Terrier".

 

That'll tell ya absolutely everything there is to know about Buck/Breay etc. and what "came from the loins of" which dog, and who "begot" who.

 

Now, I'm just gonna sit here and wait for the replies.

 

Just looked it up and me thinks I shall be making a purchase of that.

[pointer28 1]

Sorry Pipey,

 

I meant that completely sarcastically, please don't waste your money on my recommendation!

 

Check out Sean Frain under reviews.

 

The two best terrier books are The World of the Working Terrier by David Harcombe and Dig Deep, Throw Well Back by Jonathan Darcy.

 

Even though they're both mostly about digging, they are still well worth the read.

[Pipey Magregor 0]

Sorry Pipey,

 

I meant that completely sarcastically, please don't waste your money on my recommendation!

 

Check out Sean Frain under reviews.

 

The two best terrier books are The World of the Working Terrier by David Harcombe and Dig Deep, Throw Well Back by Jonathan Darcy.

 

Even though they're both mostly about digging, they are still well worth the read.

 

Ahh you've had me lol

 

I've got Dig Deep throw well back here though and I agree, its a very good book.

 

I especialy like that blokes Bedlington hair do on page 98 lol

[Guest bootneck]

pipey have you got permission to be using one of my mates dogs pics as your avatar,,,if not kindly remove it and seek permission first.....

[Pipey Magregor 0]

pipey have you got permission to be using one of my mates dogs pics as your avatar,,,if not kindly remove it and seek permission first.....

 

Sorry mate I just seen this brilliant little grafter in a Patterdale gallery and didnt think I'd need permission.

 

I do apologise.

[J Darcy 5,871]

What needs to be remembered if bull are to be added, is that it is the correct bull. No point in adding any old shit, that has been done before. When plummer added bull to his dogs i was lucky enough to see one "work". a huge strapping dog, but it was totally bottleless and wouldnt even go in a hole end.

You need the gameness or you may as well use a street mongrel IMHO.