Yapping!!

[Ideation 8,216]

IMO no one really knows why a dog yaps, is it frustration?????? Is it excitement????? Is it caring a slight injury?????? Is it just an underlined personality trait to thst dog???????

Is it being over matched???????? Is it communicating like wild dogs on a hunt, or like a pack of hounds??????? No 1 really nos but the dog it self and the man up stairs. All you can do is try and help the dog the best you can when entering and hope for best. Me I don't like ysppers but if u just go on permission shouldn't matter anyway. The stigma of a yapper came from the problems it causes as a poacher as the Lurcher used to be used 4

 

Not strictly true, have you tried running 100m shouting? What happens to your time?

[weasle 1,119]

Or the fact that becouse your on perrmission,dosnt stop the rest of the rabbits running when your dog yaps while running one.

As for yapping they could probally yap for all the above but they all come back to frustraion at not catching really,Not sure about the injury one you could also add breeding and fitness.I have a dog here and if out bushing with other dogs will let out a yip when she first finds,This can only be a call to the others as she dosnt do it on own.And is quite helpful.

What ever the reason a dog that dos it out of habbit is a complete pain in the ass.

[South hams hunter 8,922]

IMO no one really knows why a dog yaps, is it frustration?????? Is it excitement????? Is it caring a slight injury?????? Is it just an underlined personality trait to thst dog???????

Is it being over matched???????? Is it communicating like wild dogs on a hunt, or like a pack of hounds??????? No 1 really nos but the dog it self and the man up stairs. All you can do is try and help the dog the best you can when entering and hope for best. Me I don't like ysppers but if u just go on permission shouldn't matter anyway. The stigma of a yapper came from the problems it causes as a poacher as the Lurcher used to be used 4

 

Not strictly true, have you tried running 100m shouting? What happens to your time?

 

Wouldn't it causes the dog to lose stamina? Can't think how to word that

[Mixed Bag 603]

my thoughts on yapping is that you cant cause a dog to do it by foolish handling like slipping on stuff it has no chance of catching or running it too young or unfit, these things will all show the fault up if the dogs that way inclined but if a dog doesnt have the trait it will never utter a peep no matter how much stick you give it at what age. you could rear 2 pups exactly the same way same feeding exercise training and give one some runs at 10 month old and it wont make a sound its whole life and hold the other one off til its 14 month and it could yap for no reason. some dogs do it as pups then the penny drops and they make a few kills and stop doing it but imho if the traits there its there and if theyre having an off day they can revert back to the habit at any time. i dont like yappers myself but it seems no line is free from them they always seem to pop up here or there somewhere you can breed from good parents that dont yap and a pup appears in the litter that bays like a beagle. it must be some primitive throwback to the days of the wild dog packs when differet pack members fulfilled different roles, some would have been more vocal than others in wolf packs only certain wolves will initiate howling and calling to each other etc. all you can do is get the dog fit give it some easy runs to build its confidence first, then give it some stick and see if it can handle it or not. the worst yappers are the ones that kill well and can handle their quarry but still do it anyway its frustrating why the hell they do it? theres a vid on youtube of a coursing dog running well and killing but it barks like one of those new zealand ranch dogs

[paulsmithy83 567]

IMO no one really knows why a dog yaps, is it frustration?????? Is it excitement????? Is it caring a slight injury?????? Is it just an underlined personality trait to thst dog???????

Is it being over matched???????? Is it communicating like wild dogs on a hunt, or like a pack of hounds??????? No 1 really nos but the dog it self and the man up stairs. All you can do is try and help the dog the best you can when entering and hope for best. Me I don't like ysppers but if u just go on permission shouldn't matter anyway. The stigma of a yapper came from the problems it causes as a poacher as the Lurcher used to be used 4

 

Not strictly true, have you tried running 100m shouting? What happens to your time?

 

Wouldn't it causes the dog to lose stamina? Can't think how to word that

Mate look at wolves when the hunt is on they go for up to 12 miles on the chase screaming there lungs out, also hounds renowned for stamina and look at the commotion. Trust me yapping was fround upon due to the poaching eliment n for no other reason

[jerry attrick 264]

hard problem to stop once they do it mate

[South hams hunter 8,922]

Yh but they don't run at full speed like a Lurcher and I always thought it was the poaching element. Not that I care running white Lurchers lol

[paulsmithy83 567]

IMO no one really knows why a dog yaps, is it frustration?????? Is it excitement????? Is it caring a slight injury?????? Is it just an underlined personality trait to thst dog???????

Is it being over matched???????? Is it communicating like wild dogs on a hunt, or like a pack of hounds??????? No 1 really nos but the dog it self and the man up stairs. All you can do is try and help the dog the best you can when entering and hope for best. Me I don't like ysppers but if u just go on permission shouldn't matter anyway. The stigma of a yapper came from the problems it causes as a poacher as the Lurcher used to be used 4

 

Not strictly true, have you tried running 100m shouting? What happens to your time?

So you recon yapping became fround upon due to the lack of time u might lose in a run????? Lurcher doesn't need to be flat out like a 100meter runner????? I'm sure there's one or two others around before the permission streak took tole and would agree with me

[whippet 99 2,613]

Ideation has it spot on but I would add a few more things.

 

Make sure the fields you run have good solid hedges for a minute, try not to run on fields with fences. Fences and hedges that aren't tight and well pack make it easy for the rabbit to escape

[skycat 6,173]

I had an amazing little lurcher once, bred from non yapping parents, but she was a pain on the lamp as she literally screamed her head off if she missed a rabbit on the turn. I used her to her strengths, as a cover dog, because she was one of the best bushing dogs I've ever had, and caught no end of stuff in brambles. Her nose was second to none, and it didn't matter if she yapped in cover because the other lurchers knew exactly where she was and in which direction she was pushing her quarry.

 

If you have plenty of cover to work, then use the dog in that way and accept him for what he is.

 

But you could try something else. I don't know if you've had him ferreting, but I would try it if he were mine: plenty of action round the nets, letting him grab and hold netted rabbits, hopefully he'll cotton on to the fact that he can work as part of a team with the ferrets and you, and he won't have to run distances yapping to get hold of the catch. I'm not saying it will definitely cure him, and the yapping, as has already been said, may well be part of his genetic make up, but its worth a go IMO.

[pbrookes 450]

Mine yaps. He wasnt over stretched as a pup, is always fit and wasn't entered too early. He had kelpie in his make up and is very vocal. When I let him out in a morning he literally howls and talks to me like a wolf. He works with a pack of terriers that sound on scent and I rarely lamp. Like skycat said he is a good cover and ferreting dog do I have to play to his strengths and live with it. His few yaps hardly scares game off when half a dozen terriers are screaming on the cover

[weasle 1,119]

Think wolves run silent

Fox hounds any that dont speak, run faster than the ones that do

Edited October 2, 2012 by weasle

[gamerooster 1,179]

a chorkie is a chihuahua x Yorkshire terrier, and before you laugh, some absolute little demon ratters are this cross

[zakyboy 4]

surely a a dark windy night is good enough why the drizzle you,d be out twice a season waiting on no mooon wind and drizzle

[Ausnick 190]

I had my best dog go after a couple of hares by jumping out the window of the ute when we spotted some, she never ever made a sound, even when she plays she doesn't bark, her pups are the same, I was driving one night and my mate was working the cage and kept letting my pups out at the time they were 5 months old. they never EVER yapped. One night one of them started yapping, he came back with his foot up and in severe pain, he stopped limping after 6 weeks, seemed all good, no pain, started running him and sometimes he would yap. he ended up doing it again a couple of weeks ago full on when i put him on a rabbit, he came back limping, felt his whole leg he was holding up, not a sound, took him to the vet, they said he had an injury laying inside. 6 months rest and he will definitely come good they said. It's funny how I thought he had picked up a trait I really don't like when really it was just an injury. But in saying that every dog I've seen that's got terrier in it (excluding bull terriers) have yapped after game. Not a bad trait at all I just hate the silent night getting broken by barking and alerting other game that you're near.