crorider 174 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 cheers for all the advice, all seems sound. I like the bit about getting between the rabbit and its home when i cant find squatters, seems simple but hadnt thought much about it. Ill definitely be waiting for no moon and some cover and wind. Also ill be taking him on his own from now on at least until he seems more confident and less frustrated. Ive already got some ferrets, be working him with them this sunday and hopefully most weekends afterwards. Hopefully the yapping will calm down, i dont think itll ever stop completely if people say all terriers do it but i can only hope. Anyway wether he stops yapping or not ill play to his strengths and he's certainly got a few. Seems to have a decent nose on him, when ive seen rabbits that he couldnt see cos hes so short hes always ended up going straight to where they escaped following his nose and showing loads of interest. He's bolted a fair few rabbits from brambles and other cover and has also caught 2 in cover. Funny enough though he doesnt yap when bushing, sods law aint it. He's good as gold with the ferrets aswell so he's gonna be useful wether he yaps or not. He's got bags of stamina, much quicker than you'd expect a half chorkie to be, seen him run with 2 different 1/4bed 3/4whippets and he was quicker than them both, now i dont know if they were particularly slow ones or not. but Undoubtedly the best thing about him though (IMHO) is his running style. Of all the dogs ive seen running I've still not seen anything turn, twist or brake like him. Dont get me wrong ive not seen hundreds of working running dogs like most people on here but ive seen enough to know that my dog has some sort of hunting potential. Still just trying to figure out how to best put him to use? I think he'll just be a rabbitting all rounder. Quote Link to post
South hams hunter 8,922 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 A lot of people's first dogs are never much more than a learning curve IMO so as you got him as a pet originally allow him to be your learning curve. Aslong a he isn't a liability don't worry if he don't catch rabbits mate just get out and enjoy yourself 1 Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,332 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 alot of dogs yap,dont worry to much Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 haven,t read the last three pages but you see quite alot of people on here advising to take a young dog out with an older experienced dog when entering to the lamp, this imo is a bad idea, having a young dog on the lead which has to stand and watch another dog chasing will only make the dog frustrated and lead to problems such as yapping, one dog, dark windy night ,easy slips is the way to go 5 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I agree with that kittlerox,The only thing the dog learns is to watch the beam that only takes a couple of trips on its own any way,Lads seem to think the pups watching the older dog and studing how its running,Changing gears boxing of the hedge faking a strike they only learn that through experience. Your only frustrating it letting it watch rabbits run under its nose while you hold it back. 2 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Why don't you get one of the lurcher men who were surprised even impressed when they seen your little dog run to help you out. Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 haven,t read the last three pages but you see quite alot of people on here advising to take a young dog out with an older experienced dog when entering to the lamp, this imo is a bad idea, having a young dog on the lead which has to stand and watch another dog chasing will only make the dog frustrated and lead to problems such as yapping, one dog, dark windy night ,easy slips is the way to go and if you ask me its people who havent been working dogs too long ....................who just cant wait.................... we all done it at the start...........................just to eager and couldnt wait..................lol 1 Quote Link to post
bracken boy 584 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) my whip x yapped early doors when on a hare, i got him from a rescue so thought thats why he was in there , well beefed him up got him fit, and hasnt yapped for years now so am happy, with him it seemed at he time they was too fast for him. Edited October 3, 2012 by bracken boy Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I seen a comment somewhere about slipping the dog head on with a sitter..for me that is a no no..i alway's if possible try to get the dog on the arse end of them...as the bunnie is usualy pointing in the direction it's going to run and when they do they take of pretty quick...if you do slip the pup head on and it misses the bunnie the rabbit will be off and the pup will have to turn and try and make the lost ground up..where as if you slip it on the arse end it will have a better chance of coming to term's with it..i know nothing ever goes by the book when lamping but with this method i alway's think it help's put the odd's in the favour of the dog especialy with pup's.. 4 Quote Link to post
fay 75 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 my dog can be like that id get close to a squatter she wont pick them she kets them run the chase and if the bunny gets to far a head she will yap cant understand it y not just pick the rabbit instead of letting it run lol i got her when she was 1 1/2 great day dog but a bit odd on the lamp i wreckon when she was trained arse ways on the lamp thats y she has these little faults every no and again they will stop but it can b annoying when they do it Quote Link to post
crorider 174 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 haven,t read the last three pages but you see quite alot of people on here advising to take a young dog out with an older experienced dog when entering to the lamp, this imo is a bad idea, having a young dog on the lead which has to stand and watch another dog chasing will only make the dog frustrated and lead to problems such as yapping, one dog, dark windy night ,easy slips is the way to go This seems to make sense, thats what ill be doing now 1 Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 haven,t read the last three pages but you see quite alot of people on here advising to take a young dog out with an older experienced dog when entering to the lamp, this imo is a bad idea, having a young dog on the lead which has to stand and watch another dog chasing will only make the dog frustrated and lead to problems such as yapping, one dog, dark windy night ,easy slips is the way to go This seems to make sense, thats what ill be doing now and as Skycat suggested a bit ferreting may help, build the dogs confidence Quote Link to post
crorider 174 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Why don't you get one of the lurcher men who were surprised even impressed when they seen your little dog run to help you out. They were surprised how quick he was FOR HIS BREEDING whys that so hard to understand? I said you might be surprised cos if you remember, you said he'd never catch rabbits which he is now doing. Infact you went further by saying id made a fool out of myself for claiming my dog could catch rabbits, but rather than just admitting you were wrong youre the one now making a fool of yourself. And before you do your usual and say catching the odd rabbit is no big deal save your breath cos i never said it was.Why you bothering even reading my topics? 1 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Why don't you get one of the lurcher men who were surprised even impressed when they seen your little dog run to help you out. They were surprised how quick he was FOR HIS BREEDING whys that so hard to understand? I said you might be surprised cos if you remember, you said he'd never catch rabbits which he is now doing. Infact you went further by saying id made a fool out of myself for claiming my dog could catch rabbits, but rather than just admitting you were wrong youre the one now making a fool of yourself. And before you do your usual and say catching the odd rabbit is no big deal save your breath cos i never said it was.Why you bothering even reading my topics? Just like to read how the dog you described to lab is doing thats all because I was genuinley interested when i read this.......... "i know it sounds funny but thats what he is and im telling you a rabbit will not stand a chance against him! hes so agile. next time hes being coursed by all the lurchers ill film it and email it to you." Well so far 15 rabbits have run the gauntlet of the Paris Hilton lurcher and 10 have done ok ! 1 Quote Link to post
crorider 174 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Why don't you get one of the lurcher men who were surprised even impressed when they seen your little dog run to help you out. They were surprised how quick he was FOR HIS BREEDING whys that so hard to understand? I said you might be surprised cos if you remember, you said he'd never catch rabbits which he is now doing. Infact you went further by saying id made a fool out of myself for claiming my dog could catch rabbits, but rather than just admitting you were wrong youre the one now making a fool of yourself. And before you do your usual and say catching the odd rabbit is no big deal save your breath cos i never said it was.Why you bothering even reading my topics? Just like to read how the dog you described to lab is doing thats all because I was genuinley interested when i read this.......... "i know it sounds funny but thats what he is and im telling you a rabbit will not stand a chance against him! hes so agile. next time hes being coursed by all the lurchers ill film it and email it to you." Well so far 15 rabbits have run the gauntlet of the Paris Hilton lurcher and 10 have done ok ! That was 3 months ago, then after a severe ripping i wrote this ''maybe the doesnt stand a chance comment was stupid but i werent being literal.'' In my defence mate as i kept saying, i'd never seen a dog lamp and didnt have a clue about anything really but i knew one thing, my dog could, and would catch rabbits and thats the point i was making. Was a lot more recently though that you told me he couldnt catch a rabbit at all, and i dont think youve got as good an excuse as me, how long you been working running dogs?........ Edited October 3, 2012 by crorider Quote Link to post
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