patterdalejoel 669 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 any one use sand for indoor permanent pens, how do you go about topping up the sand etc, changing the sand completely, how long does it last before nees changing etc, thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raymond1 262 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) any one use sand for indoor permanent pens, how do you go about topping up the sand etc, changing the sand completely, how long does it last before nees changing etc, thanks. use childrens playpit sand Joel ,or better still dry out mersey sand and that will keep them happy and empty your inbox edited to say ;buy a sieve and you dont have to change the sand too frequently Edited September 30, 2012 by raymond1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gamerooster 1,179 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 any one use sand for indoor permanent pens, how do you go about topping up the sand etc, changing the sand completely, how long does it last before nees changing etc, thanks. always prefered straw myself, and btw, lifes to short for grudges, sorry if i was out of term mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patterdalejoel 669 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 any one use sand for indoor permanent pens, how do you go about topping up the sand etc, changing the sand completely, how long does it last before nees changing etc, thanks. always prefered straw myself, and btw, lifes to short for grudges, sorry if i was out of term mate ive never got on with straw, top layer always gets caked up and compacted and bottom is clean. fair play mate, same Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gamerooster 1,179 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 any one use sand for indoor permanent pens, how do you go about topping up the sand etc, changing the sand completely, how long does it last before nees changing etc, thanks. always prefered straw myself, and btw, lifes to short for grudges, sorry if i was out of term mate ive never got on with straw, top layer always gets caked up and compacted and bottom is clean. fair play mate, same the down side is, is that it does need changed often, but i think it makes for a happier bird. you thought about bark chippings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
digger. 615 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 for outdoors in winter bark mulch big stuff keeps them dry the straw is ok depending on size of pen changing often can be a c**t Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raymond1 262 Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 another type of bedding i use for my birds is choped rape seed straw but you have to have the drinkers well off the floor becuse the birds scratch it all over the place one more positive addvantage of rape straw is that you can pour on detol and it soaks up the detol and leaves it still active and that has to benefit the birds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patterdalejoel 669 Posted October 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 any one use sand for indoor permanent pens, how do you go about topping up the sand etc, changing the sand completely, how long does it last before nees changing etc, thanks. always prefered straw myself, and btw, lifes to short for grudges, sorry if i was out of term mate ive never got on with straw, top layer always gets caked up and compacted and bottom is clean. fair play mate, same the down side is, is that it does need changed often, but i think it makes for a happier bird. you thought about bark chippings? you need a lot of bark chippings i feel to make it worthwhile, i thin layer doesnt work and if you neglect to turn them they get a layer of muck on top pretty quickly. heard something about the cocoa shells used in them can have a poisonous effect if consumed by the birds as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gamerooster 1,179 Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 any one use sand for indoor permanent pens, how do you go about topping up the sand etc, changing the sand completely, how long does it last before nees changing etc, thanks. always prefered straw myself, and btw, lifes to short for grudges, sorry if i was out of term mate ive never got on with straw, top layer always gets caked up and compacted and bottom is clean. fair play mate, same the down side is, is that it does need changed often, but i think it makes for a happier bird. you thought about bark chippings? you need a lot of bark chippings i feel to make it worthwhile, i thin layer doesnt work and if you neglect to turn them they get a layer of muck on top pretty quickly. heard something about the cocoa shells used in them can have a poisonous effect if consumed by the birds as well. never heard of that, i never used them mate, i always used straw, and as for the outside pens, i was lucky enough to have enough grass to be able to move them often! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
digger. 615 Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 any one use sand for indoor permanent pens, how do you go about topping up the sand etc, changing the sand completely, how long does it last before nees changing etc, thanks. always prefered straw myself, and btw, lifes to short for grudges, sorry if i was out of term mate ive never got on with straw, top layer always gets caked up and compacted and bottom is clean. fair play mate, same the down side is, is that it does need changed often, but i think it makes for a happier bird. you thought about bark chippings? you need a lot of bark chippings i feel to make it worthwhile, i thin layer doesnt work and if you neglect to turn them they get a layer of muck on top pretty quickly. heard something about the cocoa shells used in them can have a poisonous effect if consumed by the birds as well. didnt no that mate i no that you need a good layer of the stuff.might try sand for the indoors see how it goes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 bark mulch is good but you need 3-4 inches deep tbh.Also fallen leafs thrown in and raked up everyday make a good scratch for food to be thrown into. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raymond1 262 Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 bark mulch is good but you need 3-4 inches deep tbh.Also fallen leafs thrown in and raked up everyday make a good scratch for food to be thrown into. the trouble with fallen leaves is they often carry and harbour round worm , go to a horse/animal feed merchant and get a bale of rape seed straw , mix up some detol in a watering can and sprinkle it all over the new bedding do not use a cheaper alternative to detol though or it will not work ,.......it has to be detol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxdigger13 114 Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Sand is the best if the flypen has a roof. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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