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Feck me, you should get a job in a typing pool. 3 lots of war and peace in 4 minutes.   And like war and peace, works of fiction

SHH......what the f**k are you doing? Your making a c**t of yourself mate...

Well he never copied it from you anyway....................

the one thing ive found out over the years having lurchers, is retrieving is the only thing you carnt make a lurcher do. All my dogs have brought back there quarry, some better than others, but all (wanted) to bring back. Had bitsa bitch great catch dog , but would only bring back 3/4 of the way.She was trained the( same) as all the others that ive owned .? Like i say they do it or they dont ,dont forget 1/2 or what ever% running dog in the mix is not natural retrieve, what is natural is to chase+ kill , they not labs .? Bryn my 1x colliexgrey is very good retriever, he as brough back rabbits from over 90yds easy, but when had 30 odd runs in the lamp is retieveing getts bit slack, which is fair enough :yes: .

this was brought back from about 100yds, could'nt tell if got at first lol

 

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Im not being funny, but Ive just read your other posts, and, it all reads like a pre ban book.. If its not from a pre ban book, why would you write so much ammo for the Anti`s on an open, monitored forum. Those in the know, just know. No need to tryand teach people to suck eggs.

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A friend suggested using rabbit skin around a block of wood.. Will this still have the same effect to the dog? As it will be easier to throw the bit of wood than a rabbit down a corridor haha?

 

feckin no way, like i said on my thread they will do it or they wont fact. Make a game of it with a ball or old sock.The rabbit skin thing (dont) really mean nout, because when they get there jaw on a 1st live kicking rabbit, most of what you taught can go out of the window :yes: .The more they catch the less they will get over execited :yes:

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I disagree there Bird: any pup can be taught to retrieve: it all depends on how the dog views you: as an end to the fun it is having when catching, or as an intrinsic part of the whole exciting process of hunting, catching etc.

 

Adult dogs that have been messed up by incorrect handling are a different matter, and it could take literally years, a supremely gifted and skilled handler to overcome the problems that are already there.

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For dogs that won't lift dummies or balls. I use a fresh rabbit skin rolled up and put inside a pair of womens tights to protect it. I find the smell of a skin stimulates the dog more. Also used a whole dead rabbit within the confines of my back yard. Got some strange looks from some of mates but does the job. lol.

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I disagree there Bird: any pup can be taught to retrieve: it all depends on how the dog views you: as an end to the fun it is having when catching, or as an intrinsic part of the whole exciting process of hunting, catching etc.

 

Adult dogs that have been messed up by incorrect handling are a different matter, and it could take literally years, a supremely gifted and skilled handler to overcome the problems that are already there.

yeh, but not bringing in a live rabbit, you can train it till the cows come home lol, but they bring it or they wont . Ive never had the prob, but as said my old bitsa bitch would only bring as far as she wanted ,and she was trained the same as all my other dogs. As said penny, you carnt make them do it if they dont want to (live game), most dogs will bring dummys balls what ever, live animal differnt thing, !! there not labs penny .!!

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