Guest bullterrier Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I say this with tounge in cheek mate, but sometimes I think you'd have a very different opinion of Joe if he was a fighter who came through one of the London gyms instead of being trained by his old man in a little place in the valleys with no real pedigree or history behind it! You dont need to say it tongue in cheek mate i accept im probably a touch biased towards East End fighters....but im not completely blinkered.......... What you need to remember is Calzaghe held the WBO title,by far the least prestigious of the belts......why didnt he want to unify the belts ?......as a " world " champion you should face the world anywhere in the world.............like you say we,ve probably had the conversation before so no need going over old ground......but who do you think is better known WORLDWIDE in the boxing world Joe Calzaghe or Roy Jones ?........kind of tells its own story when Calzaghe beat him in a fight and was unbeaten in his career Nothing wrong with a bit of bias mate, shows you're proud of your area and your roots! I'm exactly the same where Calzaghe is concerned, he can do no wrong in my eyes! It don't really matter to me if Jones was the better fighter because at the end of the day. he ain't Welsh! He has got a Welsh surname though,wonder if we can lay any claim to him.... cant really lay claim to a "calzaghe" tho can you........... saying he is welsh is like saying kahn is english................... cant really claim to be a liverpool supporter coming from derby john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I say this with tounge in cheek mate, but sometimes I think you'd have a very different opinion of Joe if he was a fighter who came through one of the London gyms instead of being trained by his old man in a little place in the valleys with no real pedigree or history behind it! You dont need to say it tongue in cheek mate i accept im probably a touch biased towards East End fighters....but im not completely blinkered.......... What you need to remember is Calzaghe held the WBO title,by far the least prestigious of the belts......why didnt he want to unify the belts ?......as a " world " champion you should face the world anywhere in the world.............like you say we,ve probably had the conversation before so no need going over old ground......but who do you think is better known WORLDWIDE in the boxing world Joe Calzaghe or Roy Jones ?........kind of tells its own story when Calzaghe beat him in a fight and was unbeaten in his career Nothing wrong with a bit of bias mate, shows you're proud of your area and your roots! I'm exactly the same where Calzaghe is concerned, he can do no wrong in my eyes! It don't really matter to me if Jones was the better fighter because at the end of the day. he ain't Welsh! He has got a Welsh surname though,wonder if we can lay any claim to him.... cant really lay claim to a "calzaghe" tho can you........... saying he is welsh is like saying kahn is english................... a dog born in a stable is still a bloody dog ain't it? You try telling him he ain't welsh if you ever bump into him but get a mate to film it because I reckon the outcome would be fecking hilarious! he was born in london to an italian father............not really your average valley boy is he......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I say this with tounge in cheek mate, but sometimes I think you'd have a very different opinion of Joe if he was a fighter who came through one of the London gyms instead of being trained by his old man in a little place in the valleys with no real pedigree or history behind it! You dont need to say it tongue in cheek mate i accept im probably a touch biased towards East End fighters....but im not completely blinkered.......... What you need to remember is Calzaghe held the WBO title,by far the least prestigious of the belts......why didnt he want to unify the belts ?......as a " world " champion you should face the world anywhere in the world.............like you say we,ve probably had the conversation before so no need going over old ground......but who do you think is better known WORLDWIDE in the boxing world Joe Calzaghe or Roy Jones ?........kind of tells its own story when Calzaghe beat him in a fight and was unbeaten in his career Nothing wrong with a bit of bias mate, shows you're proud of your area and your roots! I'm exactly the same where Calzaghe is concerned, he can do no wrong in my eyes! It don't really matter to me if Jones was the better fighter because at the end of the day. he ain't Welsh! He has got a Welsh surname though,wonder if we can lay any claim to him.... cant really lay claim to a "calzaghe" tho can you........... saying he is welsh is like saying kahn is english................... cant really claim to be a liverpool supporter coming from derby john true mate but at least i support a team from my own country, unlike malt...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 lurcher1 out of interest did you watch the liverpool swansea game as liverpool football club think they were robbed a win john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I say this with tounge in cheek mate, but sometimes I think you'd have a very different opinion of Joe if he was a fighter who came through one of the London gyms instead of being trained by his old man in a little place in the valleys with no real pedigree or history behind it! You dont need to say it tongue in cheek mate i accept im probably a touch biased towards East End fighters....but im not completely blinkered.......... What you need to remember is Calzaghe held the WBO title,by far the least prestigious of the belts......why didnt he want to unify the belts ?......as a " world " champion you should face the world anywhere in the world.............like you say we,ve probably had the conversation before so no need going over old ground......but who do you think is better known WORLDWIDE in the boxing world Joe Calzaghe or Roy Jones ?........kind of tells its own story when Calzaghe beat him in a fight and was unbeaten in his career Nothing wrong with a bit of bias mate, shows you're proud of your area and your roots! I'm exactly the same where Calzaghe is concerned, he can do no wrong in my eyes! It don't really matter to me if Jones was the better fighter because at the end of the day. he ain't Welsh! He has got a Welsh surname though,wonder if we can lay any claim to him.... cant really lay claim to a "calzaghe" tho can you........... saying he is welsh is like saying kahn is english................... cant really claim to be a liverpool supporter coming from derby john true mate but at least i support a team from my own country, unlike malt...... Aye English premiership teams - the last bastion of everything English without a foreign player or owner in site... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 lurcher1 out of interest did you watch the liverpool swansea game as liverpool football club think they were robbed a win john no mate never watched it...........infact im not going to watch any games untill they start winning again..........im only interested in glory................... :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 lurcher1 out of interest did you watch the liverpool swansea game as liverpool football club think they were robbed a win john no mate never watched it...........infact im not going to watch any games untill they start winning again..........im only interested in glory................... :D You'll be waiting a long fecking time then! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I say this with tounge in cheek mate, but sometimes I think you'd have a very different opinion of Joe if he was a fighter who came through one of the London gyms instead of being trained by his old man in a little place in the valleys with no real pedigree or history behind it! You dont need to say it tongue in cheek mate i accept im probably a touch biased towards East End fighters....but im not completely blinkered.......... What you need to remember is Calzaghe held the WBO title,by far the least prestigious of the belts......why didnt he want to unify the belts ?......as a " world " champion you should face the world anywhere in the world.............like you say we,ve probably had the conversation before so no need going over old ground......but who do you think is better known WORLDWIDE in the boxing world Joe Calzaghe or Roy Jones ?........kind of tells its own story when Calzaghe beat him in a fight and was unbeaten in his career Nothing wrong with a bit of bias mate, shows you're proud of your area and your roots! I'm exactly the same where Calzaghe is concerned, he can do no wrong in my eyes! It don't really matter to me if Jones was the better fighter because at the end of the day. he ain't Welsh! He has got a Welsh surname though,wonder if we can lay any claim to him.... cant really lay claim to a "calzaghe" tho can you........... saying he is welsh is like saying kahn is english................... cant really claim to be a liverpool supporter coming from derby john true mate but at least i support a team from my own country, unlike malt...... Aye English premiership teams - the last bastion of everything English without a foreign player or owner in site... you should think yourself lucky that the english allow the welsh into to play in our league, look at how the scots want in............. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 lurcher1 out of interest did you watch the liverpool swansea game as liverpool football club think they were robbed a win john no mate never watched it...........infact im not going to watch any games untill they start winning again..........im only interested in glory................... :D You'll be waiting a long fecking time then! only till next year............. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 lurcher1 out of interest did you watch the liverpool swansea game as liverpool football club think they were robbed a win john no mate never watched it...........infact im not going to watch any games untill they start winning again..........im only interested in glory................... :D You'll be waiting a long fecking time then! only till next year............. when was the last time you won two games back to back at home Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seamlfc00 5 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I say this with tounge in cheek mate, but sometimes I think you'd have a very different opinion of Joe if he was a fighter who came through one of the London gyms instead of being trained by his old man in a little place in the valleys with no real pedigree or history behind it! You dont need to say it tongue in cheek mate i accept im probably a touch biased towards East End fighters....but im not completely blinkered.......... What you need to remember is Calzaghe held the WBO title,by far the least prestigious of the belts......why didnt he want to unify the belts ?......as a " world " champion you should face the world anywhere in the world.............like you say we,ve probably had the conversation before so no need going over old ground......but who do you think is better known WORLDWIDE in the boxing world Joe Calzaghe or Roy Jones ?........kind of tells its own story when Calzaghe beat him in a fight and was unbeaten in his career couldnt put it better myself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,280 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) I'm exactly the same where Calzaghe is concerned, he can do no wrong in my eyes! It don't really matter to me if Jones was the better fighter because at the end of the day. he ain't Welsh! He has got a Welsh surname though,wonder if we can lay any claim to him.... In a way i feel for Welsh boxing fans simply because yous have had a very good fighter in Calzaghe,yet nobody will ever really know how good,hence why there is so much debate about him..........some fighters you cant have these debates because everything is there for all to see......yet Calzaghe was so shifty outside the ring he has left the sport with more questions than answers......yet for average joe public they see the words " unbeaten " and jump on a bandwagon without studying the details......for instance,how many fighters do you see that stay the same weight their entire career,very few....between the ages of about 21 - 35 his weight never fluctuated by any more than about 3 lb................yet suddenly as a 36 year old he jumps up 6 lb !!.....A critic would look at that and say well he could of moved up 3/5/7 years earlier and fought a prime Roy Jones.....but chose not to.......same as regards fighting in America something he once said he wouldnt do. Likewise Ricky Hatton,probably the best promoted fighter in the history of the sport.......at least Henry Coopers crazy popularity came from his fighting !!....Hattons popularity made his career.....whenever his name gets mentioned you hear people talking about what a funny guy he was and how he was one of the lads and loved a singsong........................so what !! Im glad to see the back of him maybe now we can concentrate and get behind good honest fighters the likes of Price,Froch,Quigg,Burns....genuine fighters who dont degrade the sport into a popularity show...............i dont think i,ll ever understand the British mentality to sport sometimes i think i just dont fit in Edited November 28, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sweater 24 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I say this with tounge in cheek mate, but sometimes I think you'd have a very different opinion of Joe if he was a fighter who came through one of the London gyms instead of being trained by his old man in a little place in the valleys with no real pedigree or history behind it! You dont need to say it tongue in cheek mate i accept im probably a touch biased towards East End fighters....but im not completely blinkered.......... What you need to remember is Calzaghe held the WBO title,by far the least prestigious of the belts......why didnt he want to unify the belts ?......as a " world " champion you should face the world anywhere in the world.............like you say we,ve probably had the conversation before so no need going over old ground......but who do you think is better known WORLDWIDE in the boxing world Joe Calzaghe or Roy Jones ?........kind of tells its own story when Calzaghe beat him in a fight and was unbeaten in his career Nothing wrong with a bit of bias mate, shows you're proud of your area and your roots! I'm exactly the same where Calzaghe is concerned, he can do no wrong in my eyes! It don't really matter to me if Jones was the better fighter because at the end of the day. he ain't Welsh! He has got a Welsh surname though,wonder if we can lay any claim to him.... cant really lay claim to a "calzaghe" tho can you........... saying he is welsh is like saying kahn is english................... cant really claim to be a liverpool supporter coming from derby john true mate but at least i support a team from my own country, unlike malt...... Aye English premiership teams - the last bastion of everything English without a foreign player or owner in site... you should think yourself lucky that the english allow the welsh into to play in our league, look at how the scots want in............. The only thing thats english about our league .is the name feller .Its full of foreign players and is owned by foreign investors .Thats one of the reasons why our international team is so poor .I Laugh when i hear commentators say the english league strongest in the world , .Wheres the english players ,theyre either sniffing coke ,raping some bird ,or pissed up . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 What about young Eubanks? He is showing some promise! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,280 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 The only thing thats english about our league .is the name feller .Its full of foreign players and is owned by foreign investors .Thats one of the reasons why our international team is so poor .I Laugh when i hear commentators say the english league strongest in the world , .Wheres the english players ,theyre either sniffing coke ,raping some bird ,or pissed up . Yes the Spanish league is much stronger it has the 2 best players in the world...........Messi ( Argentinian ) and Ronaldo ( Portugese ) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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