paulus 26 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 I work alot of land i don't have permission on but i have been on the same land for years without any hassell ,they must know i am there but are not bothered because i dont cause any trouble,but i also have a lot of permission which i got most of from bumping into the farmer/landowner while i was on it,just be civil and conduct your self in a proper manner and you should not have any problems,and if you do gain some permission in an area you might just get away with going over the boundary ,the old line "i have permission off Paddy ,is this not his land" can work wonders . I have no problem with people on land without permission as long as it is not my permission but if you are a dick you should be treated like one and pulled off the land i have gained permision a number of times over the years after not realising i was somewhere i shouldnt have been i even had a land owner say to me "i might aswell give you permission as your always on here anyway" 2 Quote Link to post
bird 9,985 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 some things will never change................. Spot on, been working lurchers 25 years, and it was the same now as it was then. The bottom line is they dont want lurchers on there ground (land owners + keepers). They know that ( famers) that untrained dogs will kill sheep, and keepers know that lurchers can and feck drives up the next day by moving the partridge's off, these are words from farmers+ keepers ive spoke to over the years . They know you can get few good lurchers owners who train there lurchers to a high standard, and keep away from there ground birds. But they dont like to take the risk with (no one) s o its a big no if you ask for perm.!! I stopped asking for perm years ago, as the know what they would say, and once you( thinking) of going on there ground , they will keep more of a look out for you, so i dont say feck all. And i try best (not) let them know ive been on the ground, my dogs are 100% sake with stock, and keep away from ground birds, make them think that you aint beeen on the ground. :yes: Quote Link to post
dimmock20 278 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 some things will never change................. Spot on, been working lurchers 25 years, and it was the same now as it was then. The bottom line is they dont want lurchers on there ground (land owners + keepers). They know that ( famers) that untrained dogs will kill sheep, and keepers know that lurchers can and feck drives up the next day by moving the partridge's off, these are words from farmers+ keepers ive spoke to over the years . They know you can get few good lurchers owners who train there lurchers to a high standard, and keep away from there ground birds. But they dont like to take the risk with (no one) s o its a big no if you ask for perm.!! I stopped asking for perm years ago, as the know what they would say, and once you( thinking) of going on there ground , they will keep more of a look out for you, so i dont say feck all. And i try best (not) let them know ive been on the ground, my dogs are 100% sake with stock, and keep away from ground birds, make them think that you aint beeen on the ground. :yes: i agree with you 100% i respect land i used to beat on big shoots so im give plenty respect when on there land. its the people on here that sterio type lads and jump to conclusions and think there better then everybody else that wind me up, anyway im done on this subject happy hunting Quote Link to post
bird 9,985 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 some things will never change................. Spot on, been working lurchers 25 years, and it was the same now as it was then. The bottom line is they dont want lurchers on there ground (land owners + keepers). They know that ( famers) that untrained dogs will kill sheep, and keepers know that lurchers can and feck drives up the next day by moving the partridge's off, these are words from farmers+ keepers ive spoke to over the years . They know you can get few good lurchers owners who train there lurchers to a high standard, and keep away from there ground birds. But they dont like to take the risk with (no one) s o its a big no if you ask for perm.!! I stopped asking for perm years ago, as the know what they would say, and once you( thinking) of going on there ground , they will keep more of a look out for you, so i dont say feck all. And i try best (not) let them know ive been on the ground, my dogs are 100% sake with stock, and keep away from ground birds, make them think that you aint beeen on the ground. :yes: i agree with you 100% i respect land i used to beat on big shoots so im give plenty respect when on there land. its the people on here that sterio type lads and jump to conclusions and think there better then everybody else that wind me up, anyway im done on this subject happy hunting Quote Link to post
NEWKID 27,644 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 It's simple really if you are out poaching make every effort to be discreet its not rocket science, even down to tying the gate ropes the same as you found them, the old boys who first took me were poachers and were respectful to the land, if you go cutting fences, leaving gear lying around etc its only a matter of time till the land is so red hot you won't be able to move.... And common courtesy, manners etc go a long way to gaining permission or easing a fraught situation................ Also it's not just young lads, maybe they need a bit of guidance at times you always get the odd dick in life no matter. I'm forever grateful to the early guidance I had and now only regret the break I had from the hunting game........ 7 Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 It's simple really if you are out poaching make every effort to be discreet its not rocket science, even down to tying the gate ropes the same as you found them, the old boys who first took me were poachers and were respectful to the land, if you go cutting fences, leaving gear lying around etc its only a matter of time till the land is so red hot you won't be able to move.... And common courtesy, manners etc go a long way to gaining permission or easing a fraught situation................ Also it's not just young lads, maybe they need a bit of guidance at times you always get the odd dick in life no matter. I'm forever grateful to the early guidance I had and now only regret the break I had from the hunting game........ Spot on Newkid, if they dont know you,v been there then they dont go looking for you, nobody misses a bunny or two or hares for that matter but leave the birds alone, buster. Quote Link to post
foxtails 272 Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 righly said idiation totaly agree with every thing you said, its younger mouthy kids with no respect for nothing or nobody,,that could do with a bloody good hiding Quote Link to post
NEWKID 27,644 Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 It's simple really if you are out poaching make every effort to be discreet its not rocket science, even down to tying the gate ropes the same as you found them, the old boys who first took me were poachers and were respectful to the land, if you go cutting fences, leaving gear lying around etc its only a matter of time till the land is so red hot you won't be able to move.... And common courtesy, manners etc go a long way to gaining permission or easing a fraught situation................ Also it's not just young lads, maybe they need a bit of guidance at times you always get the odd dick in life no matter. I'm forever grateful to the early guidance I had and now only regret the break I had from the hunting game........ It's simple really if you are out poaching make every effort to be discreet its not rocket science, even down to tying the gate ropes the same as you found them, the old boys who first took me were poachers and were respectful to the land, if you go cutting fences, leaving gear lying around etc its only a matter of time till the land is so red hot you won't be able to move.... And common courtesy, manners etc go a long way to gaining permission or easing a fraught situation................ Also it's not just young lads, maybe they need a bit of guidance at times you always get the odd dick in life no matter. I'm forever grateful to the early guidance I had and now only regret the break I had from the hunting game........ Spot on Newkid, if they dont know you,v been there then they dont go looking for you, nobody misses a bunny or two or hares for that matter but leave the birds alone, buster. On one of my bits of permission the farmer has said if we see any hare to leave them alone...... I said your safe with the hares as I only run a beddy whip but the fallow on the land is far from safe lolol.... Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 I guess that bit of permission makes all the difference then like them fekin idiots with the bull crosses and shotguns who were photographed killing badgers a wile a go on permission them clowns do more damage to dog work than some body mouching and poaching a few rabbits. if only the powers that be could suss this, in their eyes a poacher taking the odd rabbit commits the same crime as a numpty shooting badgers or killing deer and leaving them lying Maybe in some parts of the country but even the old bill and land owners are realiseing theirs a mile of difference between a man mouching for a few rabbits and the idiots driveing land and causing damage and destruction often in persuite of inedible quarry. Quote Link to post
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