Deerhound lurchers not slow to mature.

[Bootsha 1,306]

everyone has different opinions on how to do things with their dogs, if your system works with what you have got and turns out consistently good workers , stick to it, but never decry another mans system just because you use a different one, it may work just as well for him as yours does for you.

I HAVE seen good young dogs spoilt by premature entering,terriers and lurchers, i have not seen dogs spoilt by entering a bit later ......yet.

 

Sometimes we, as handlers, borne from years of hands on experience, know whats better for the longevity of that dogs working carreer, and how to go about achieving it, than the dog itself does.

[birddog 1,354]

Out of interest do people stop there kids playing football or rugby till there 18-21 to make sure there bones have completed the growth phase. I think theres a huge debate on physical readyness. My brother lifted weights from 11 he's now 6ft 2 and by far the tallest and strongest out of us lot. No issues with his body.

and are we (scotland england ireland or wales) best in the world at football or rugby ? the best nations seem to educate the mind first holding back a little on the competitive side so probably a good argument for letting them mature first

I dont know on that one I recon we got the best youth academies for football and rugby for young ages. To bring the crop through. I'd say its more competitive in youth sports then the adults Look at the regional rugby and football academies there ruthless even from the under 7's. Pushing them as far as can be taken Always two sides to an argument.

i think one way you think another they both work for each of us no hassle........but have we produced a messi or ronaldo ? how many young lads with enormous potential have career ending injuries young ? i've coached a lads team and work for the ambulance service and seen far more broken hearts (and bones) than peles or ronaldo's but hey like the saying goes .........you say potaeto and i say potatto......potatto worked for me atb

[bunnys 1,228]

Harvest too late the crop will be poor too!

cautious people trying to be clever.

Did you see the quality of the late harvested wheat this year? Rubbish.

saying don't hold up with crops or dogs, early entering can ruin a dog true but so can lack of experience, hold a dog back for 2 season if you want but the young brain absorbs learning better than an old brain.

learning them the countryside code early doors is amust ya can learn em ought in ta yard darn site different in the field ,nocking a few esy late summer myxies etc aint gonna harm any young animal , holding them back to long for a bit a ediblble as no reasoning .show em thems the way gently easing them in thats fior me and knowing hjow to guage the animal as they all diffrent even when bred the sme way . atb bunnys,

[birddog 1,354]

i agree with bunnys, get them out jumping logs, crossing burns (streams) meeting livestock etc but as they find their way i watch them gauging how they take things on board, 'belle' pictured above retrieved a bunny my other dog brought back live and kicking at 12 wks old it wasn't planned but was an opportunity too good to miss, another wee step on the learning ladder, she caught her first daylight rabbits at around 8mnth and her first lamped at 9mnth but she was still a pup and wasn't finished growing physically or mentally and i continued with 1's and 2's for a while but i really don't see the point of pushing a pup too hard they'll be ready for harder work in their own time

[paulsmithy83 567]

Yep no right way no wrong way we just do what we no works for us best way to be

[Lost Generation 93]

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Edited October 9, 2012 by Lost Generation

[baldockbanks courser 598]

Out of interest do people stop there kids playing football or rugby till there 18-21 to make sure there bones have completed the growth phase. I think theres a huge debate on physical readyness. My brother lifted weights from 11 he's now 6ft 2 and by far the tallest and strongest out of us lot. No issues with his body.

and are we (scotland england ireland or wales) best in the world at football or rugby ? the best nations seem to educate the mind first holding back a little on the competitive side so probably a good argument for letting them mature first

I dont know on that one I recon we got the best youth academies for football and rugby for young ages. To bring the crop through. I'd say its more competitive in youth sports then the adults Look at the regional rugby and football academies there ruthless even from the under 7's. Pushing them as far as can be taken Always two sides to an argument.

i think one way you think another they both work for each of us no hassle........but have we produced a messi or ronaldo ? how many young lads with enormous potential have career ending injuries young ? i've coached a lads team and work for the ambulance service and seen far more broken hearts (and bones) than peles or ronaldo's but hey like the saying goes .........you say potaeto and i say potatto......potatto worked for me atb

Footballers and rugby players have nothing to do with dogs!

What ever has messi not been English got to do with entering a Lurcher? and if you do want to strike comparisons Gazza didn't pick his skills up at the age of 18 playing with a size 3 football, never playing a match I'm sure.

Surely no sane humane would say first cross deerhound greyhound is the best rabbit and hare dog available, because I can tell you there not.

So unless you just like them, you really should be looking at more appropriate Quarrie.

You can't force gameness and bravery into a dog no matter how many years you keep it, surely bt 2 they should show a desire?