chook1 184 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Aged 4 well done,post some pics! I dont have any pic's of her chaseing or grabbing the bun, i didnt have my camera with me and was also to shocked to even think of any pictures. Took this with my phone afterwards though, as the lurcher grabbed the bun, the deerhound grabbed at the same time not ideal as then had a power struggle of who was going to have it! shes stands at 32" Quote Link to post
johnny 2 367 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Yes they are show stoppers.Is this breeder from the cheshire area?Can't remember her name was along time ago Not Anne powers is it? I'm thinking Elaine? Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,871 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Yes they are show stoppers.Is this breeder from the cheshire area?Can't remember her name was along time ago Not Anne powers is it? I'm thinking Elaine? I just know my mates went to her for 2 first cross pups and when 1 of them was old enough to try on a hare it took a heart attack on it's first course , so I stayed away from them lines and got doxhope blooded dogs on Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Check out the dictionary definition of the verb 'restrain'.You will find your comment to be both irrelevant and superfluous. Seems someone has already blown the dust off the dictionary. If you think a dog pulling at cats and "anything that moves" is a indication of working ability.................... Quote Link to post
kranky 507 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Morton, could you let me know what limitations that the use of collie blood makes up for, I'm interested in that outcross.. Cheers. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Morton, could you let me know what limitations that the use of collie blood makes up for, I'm interested in that outcross.. Cheers. For me there is no dog more elegant and suited to running heavy,wide open terrain than a Deerhound cross,put the same dog in less suitable surroundings and although it may be a useful jukel,it will not run or reach its potential.Then there is the Border,Greyhound,a dog that will adapt and perform to a very good standard on differing disciplines and any terrain,but they lack that extra yard and have a tendency to become a little to clever.Combine the two and the best of both shines through,the less desirable element of the breeds is lost,to a certain extent,you should in theory have the ultimate allrounder,if it was really that easy.Source from genuine working stock and a better dog will be hard to find. 1 Quote Link to post
kranky 507 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 When I first started running a first cross deerhound greyhound in the late 's, the only dogs that were really available were collie x grey and deerhound grey crosses. There were other crosses and plenty of people used either pure whippets or whippet lurchers. Anyone targeting bigger stuff had collie or deerhound mixes. The collie x blokes would add a bit of deerhound to there breeding to give the dogs a bit more fire and reduce the tendency for their dogs to back down or not put in to fox. Ive never heard of deerhounds not having a liking for teeth and have never experienced it myself. a large heavyset show type deerhound is a different animal to the ideal of a working type or deerhound x longdog. If you feel that a deerhound cross would be too big for your land, why not look to a smaller line, as from what you say, the collie blood is to make the dog handier on smaller land. A 27" collie x won't run any better than a 27" deerhound x, it just might be choosey about when and what it runs. 3 Quote Link to post
darren lurcher 4 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 you harvest too early, you end up with a poor crop. Let the dog mature, let his bones set, there will be plenty of time for him. best quote iv heard yet Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Harvest too late the crop will be poor too! cautious people trying to be clever. Did you see the quality of the late harvested wheat this year? Rubbish. saying don't hold up with crops or dogs, early entering can ruin a dog true but so can lack of experience, hold a dog back for 2 season if you want but the young brain absorbs learning better than an old brain. 2 Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I was saying just the other day to someone that there's not many men who just keep lurchers for work who would kennel and feed a 1st cross that won't try or can't be used on anything other than rabbit and hare till its 3 year old! 18month/2 years at tops but 3?! The dogs declining at 5! Surely you could selectively breed these traits out, I wonder if any dogs take so long to click or it's just lacking in the heart? Quote Link to post
freelance 448 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Baldockbanks, did you or do you run a first cross deerhound grey and how did you find it entering wise and at what age did you give it a spin ? What do you think preban they would of been like on all quarry species ? PM me if you prefer pal Cheers Atb Quote Link to post
dai dogs 1,520 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 this dog took a long time to click. but he now knows whats expected of him. 2 Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Out of interest do people stop there kids playing football or rugby till there 18-21 to make sure there bones have completed the growth phase. I think theres a huge debate on physical readyness. My brother lifted weights from 11 he's now 6ft 2 and by far the tallest and strongest out of us lot. No issues with his body. 1 Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Out of interest do people stop there kids playing football or rugby till there 18-21 to make sure there bones have completed the growth phase. I think theres a huge debate on physical readyness. My brother lifted weights from 11 he's now 6ft 2 and by far the tallest and strongest out of us lot. No issues with his body. and are we (scotland england ireland or wales) best in the world at football or rugby ? the best nations seem to educate the mind first holding back a little on the competitive side so probably a good argument for letting them mature first Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Out of interest do people stop there kids playing football or rugby till there 18-21 to make sure there bones have completed the growth phase. I think theres a huge debate on physical readyness. My brother lifted weights from 11 he's now 6ft 2 and by far the tallest and strongest out of us lot. No issues with his body. and are we (scotland england ireland or wales) best in the world at football or rugby ? the best nations seem to educate the mind first holding back a little on the competitive side so probably a good argument for letting them mature first I dont know on that one I recon we got the best youth academies for football and rugby for young ages. To bring the crop through. I'd say its more competitive in youth sports then the adults Look at the regional rugby and football academies there ruthless even from the under 7's. Pushing them as far as can be taken Always two sides to an argument. Quote Link to post
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