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If she's not 100% I wouldn't breed her. Why not find a bitch that's got good feet and good stamina and one that dosnt over shoot. Then get a pup of that. Cheers

i havent seen a dog that doesnt over shoot ocasionally...........................................usually happens to young green dogs or when the dogs are having there first slips, cant fault eagerness, should learn with exsperiance but even then , they aint always perfect..............................even proven dogs make mistakes...............imo.............

being three quarter whippet she should be turning tight ................................and keeping the pressure on ...................she will only get better by learning

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I'm guessing what you produce will be a load of shite, you go out twice a week, your dogs very young, has hardly seen anything, you have no idea what to line her with (so you don't have any real motiv

keep working that bitch pal, an if she makes it to 4 or 5 years of age withoot any serious injurys/death or jacking then think about breeding off her, an 2 days a week aint exactly a lot, fair enuff i

put her to a good working saluki will sort the feet and stamina out

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would just like to breed some of my own bloodline to see what i can produce

 

I'm guessing what you produce will be a load of shite, you go out twice a week, your dogs very young, has hardly seen anything, you have no idea what to line her with (so you don't have any real motive for breeding) etc etc etc the list goes on.

 

I'm not knocking people for not doing that much with their dogs I do understand that some members have crosses to bare like family and jobs so if that's all you can fit in then fine if you're happy there's no problem but don't worry yourself about breeding litters, starting bloodlines and producing wonder dogs just put what you can in front of your young bitch and enjoy her for what she is, she has a long life ahead of her and there's plenty of time in the future to breed if she proves her worth.

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Seen that bitch run, aint seen too many dogs working cos i aint been in this game long but she's the quickest ive seen in a straight line, well trained and obedient. Runs straight down the lamp flat out from a massive slip every time. If a good proven dog with good feet and stamina was put across her id definitely have a pup.

From what i understand from everything ive read on here, you can turn a half decent dog into a real good one with time and effort and a shit one into an average one aswell. if Hes been working dogs a while and shes the best youngun hes had and one of the best hes seen, then surely putting a proven dog across her with good feet and stamina aint taking too much of a risk??

Only give the pups to mates who you know will put the time and effort in

No offence mate but you're opinion holds about as much weight as a ballon, you've got a yorkie x chihuahuh x whippet ffs. :D

 

Wasn't the OP asking for ground to run because he's moved and can't get out anywhere in a thread the other day? why are you thinking about breeding when you've got no permission where you live now?????

Yea i dont know if you can read but i did state that i aint been in the game long and didnt claim that my opinion meant anything. Simply stated id see her run and listed her qualities. If you look at what i said about breeding her with a proven dog with good feet not being too much of a risk it was phrased as a question. After reading other comments after i can see that maybe bad feet can be a massive problem not worth the risk, no thanks to you though. The only post you made was to try and mug me and the OP off. If you had an ounce of intelligence you wouldn't of bothered
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Seen that bitch run, aint seen too many dogs working cos i aint been in this game long but she's the quickest ive seen in a straight line, well trained and obedient. Runs straight down the lamp flat out from a massive slip every time. If a good proven dog with good feet and stamina was put across her id definitely have a pup.

From what i understand from everything ive read on here, you can turn a half decent dog into a real good one with time and effort and a shit one into an average one aswell. if Hes been working dogs a while and shes the best youngun hes had and one of the best hes seen, then surely putting a proven dog across her with good feet and stamina aint taking too much of a risk??

Only give the pups to mates who you know will put the time and effort in

No offence mate but you're opinion holds about as much weight as a ballon, you've got a yorkie x chihuahuh x whippet ffs. :D

 

Wasn't the OP asking for ground to run because he's moved and can't get out anywhere in a thread the other day? why are you thinking about breeding when you've got no permission where you live now?????

Yea i dont know if you can read but i did state that i aint been in the game long and didnt claim that my opinion meant anything. Simply stated id see her run and listed her qualities. If you look at what i said about breeding her with a proven dog with good feet not being too much of a risk it was phrased as a question. After reading other comments after i can see that maybe bad feet can be a massive problem not worth the risk, no thanks to you though. The only post you made was to try and mug me and the OP off. If you had an ounce of intelligence you wouldn't of bothered

Haha...right a dog thats fast in a straight line is next to useless in the lurcher world as stuff thats getting chased tends to turn quite often which if you'd been into lurchers long enough you'd know lol. Also the dog has bad feet so why the f**k would you add more poor stock to an already overcrowded with shit lurcher world !!

 

Is that answer any better for you, you're another who been into the dogs 2 mins and really should be reading and learning a bit. Now thats mugging you off ;)

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Seen that bitch run, aint seen too many dogs working cos i aint been in this game long but she's the quickest ive seen in a straight line, well trained and obedient. Runs straight down the lamp flat out from a massive slip every time. If a good proven dog with good feet and stamina was put across her id definitely have a pup.

From what i understand from everything ive read on here, you can turn a half decent dog into a real good one with time and effort and a shit one into an average one aswell. if Hes been working dogs a while and shes the best youngun hes had and one of the best hes seen, then surely putting a proven dog across her with good feet and stamina aint taking too much of a risk??

Only give the pups to mates who you know will put the time and effort in

No offence mate but you're opinion holds about as much weight as a ballon, you've got a yorkie x chihuahuh x whippet ffs. :D

 

Wasn't the OP asking for ground to run because he's moved and can't get out anywhere in a thread the other day? why are you thinking about breeding when you've got no permission where you live now?????

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Seen that bitch run, aint seen too many dogs working cos i aint been in this game long but she's the quickest ive seen in a straight line, well trained and obedient. Runs straight down the lamp flat out from a massive slip every time. If a good proven dog with good feet and stamina was put across her id definitely have a pup.

From what i understand from everything ive read on here, you can turn a half decent dog into a real good one with time and effort and a shit one into an average one aswell. if Hes been working dogs a while and shes the best youngun hes had and one of the best hes seen, then surely putting a proven dog across her with good feet and stamina aint taking too much of a risk??

Only give the pups to mates who you know will put the time and effort in

No offence mate but you're opinion holds about as much weight as a ballon, you've got a yorkie x chihuahuh x whippet ffs. :D

 

Wasn't the OP asking for ground to run because he's moved and can't get out anywhere in a thread the other day? why are you thinking about breeding when you've got no permission where you live now?????

Yea i dont know if you can read but i did state that i aint been in the game long and didnt claim that my opinion meant anything. Simply stated id see her run and listed her qualities. If you look at what i said about breeding her with a proven dog with good feet not being too much of a risk it was phrased as a question. After reading other comments after i can see that maybe bad feet can be a massive problem not worth the risk, no thanks to you though. The only post you made was to try and mug me and the OP off. If you had an ounce of intelligence you wouldn't of bothered

Haha...right a dog thats fast in a straight line is next to useless in the lurcher world as stuff thats getting chased tends to turn quite often which if you'd been into lurchers long enough you'd know lol. Also the dog has bad feet so why the f**k would you add more poor stock to an already overcrowded with shit lurcher world !!

 

Is that answer any better for you, you're another who been into the dogs 2 mins and really should be reading and learning a bit. Now thats mugging you off ;)

next to useless? i see her kill almost everything she was slipped on mate, over shot a couple that was it. most of em she was on before they had a chance to turn, you never seen that before no?? Ive read and learnt plenty in the short time i been into lurchers and now im out learning with my own eyes. you think i dont know game turn aswell? you can try use my inexperience as an insult all you want it changes nothing. youre making out im claiming i been around for years, im not doing that at all, never have. i think you need to get a life mate, staring at your laptop all day waiting for someone new to it all for you to try and belittle to feel clever, you aint clever, far from it.
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Seen that bitch run, aint seen too many dogs working cos i aint been in this game long but she's the quickest ive seen in a straight line, well trained and obedient. Runs straight down the lamp flat out from a massive slip every time. If a good proven dog with good feet and stamina was put across her id definitely have a pup.

From what i understand from everything ive read on here, you can turn a half decent dog into a real good one with time and effort and a shit one into an average one aswell. if Hes been working dogs a while and shes the best youngun hes had and one of the best hes seen, then surely putting a proven dog across her with good feet and stamina aint taking too much of a risk??

Only give the pups to mates who you know will put the time and effort in

No offence mate but you're opinion holds about as much weight as a ballon, you've got a yorkie x chihuahuh x whippet ffs. :D

 

Wasn't the OP asking for ground to run because he's moved and can't get out anywhere in a thread the other day? why are you thinking about breeding when you've got no permission where you live now?????

Yea i dont know if you can read but i did state that i aint been in the game long and didnt claim that my opinion meant anything. Simply stated id see her run and listed her qualities. If you look at what i said about breeding her with a proven dog with good feet not being too much of a risk it was phrased as a question. After reading other comments after i can see that maybe bad feet can be a massive problem not worth the risk, no thanks to you though. The only post you made was to try and mug me and the OP off. If you had an ounce of intelligence you wouldn't of bothered

Haha...right a dog thats fast in a straight line is next to useless in the lurcher world as stuff thats getting chased tends to turn quite often which if you'd been into lurchers long enough you'd know lol. Also the dog has bad feet so why the f**k would you add more poor stock to an already overcrowded with shit lurcher world !!

 

Is that answer any better for you, you're another who been into the dogs 2 mins and really should be reading and learning a bit. Now thats mugging you off ;)

next to useless? i see her kill almost everything she was slipped on mate, over shot a couple that was it. most of em she was on before they had a chance to turn, you never seen that before no?? Ive read and learnt plenty in the short time i been into lurchers and now im out learning with my own eyes. you think i dont know game turn aswell? you can try use my inexperience as an insult all you want it changes nothing. youre making out im claiming i been around for years, im not doing that at all, never have. i think you need to get a life mate, staring at your laptop all day waiting for someone new to it all for you to try and belittle to feel clever, you aint clever, far from it.

Hahaha.......mate I don't need to say anything to belittle you, you did that yourself with your outlandish claims that your little Paris Hilton lurcher would muller rabbits lol. Has for sitting behind my keyboard all day, don't make me laugh I get out plenty and my dogs don't just "worry" the rabbits mate let me tell you, when you know fck all mate its always best to keep quiet. :thumbs:

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Seen that bitch run, aint seen too many dogs working cos i aint been in this game long but she's the quickest ive seen in a straight line, well trained and obedient. Runs straight down the lamp flat out from a massive slip every time. If a good proven dog with good feet and stamina was put across her id definitely have a pup.

From what i understand from everything ive read on here, you can turn a half decent dog into a real good one with time and effort and a shit one into an average one aswell. if Hes been working dogs a while and shes the best youngun hes had and one of the best hes seen, then surely putting a proven dog across her with good feet and stamina aint taking too much of a risk??

Only give the pups to mates who you know will put the time and effort in

No offence mate but you're opinion holds about as much weight as a ballon, you've got a yorkie x chihuahuh x whippet ffs. :D

 

Wasn't the OP asking for ground to run because he's moved and can't get out anywhere in a thread the other day? why are you thinking about breeding when you've got no permission where you live now?????

Yea i dont know if you can read but i did state that i aint been in the game long and didnt claim that my opinion meant anything. Simply stated id see her run and listed her qualities. If you look at what i said about breeding her with a proven dog with good feet not being too much of a risk it was phrased as a question. After reading other comments after i can see that maybe bad feet can be a massive problem not worth the risk, no thanks to you though. The only post you made was to try and mug me and the OP off. If you had an ounce of intelligence you wouldn't of bothered

Haha...right a dog thats fast in a straight line is next to useless in the lurcher world as stuff thats getting chased tends to turn quite often which if you'd been into lurchers long enough you'd know lol. Also the dog has bad feet so why the f**k would you add more poor stock to an already overcrowded with shit lurcher world !!

 

Is that answer any better for you, you're another who been into the dogs 2 mins and really should be reading and learning a bit. Now thats mugging you off ;)

next to useless? i see her kill almost everything she was slipped on mate, over shot a couple that was it. most of em she was on before they had a chance to turn, you never seen that before no?? Ive read and learnt plenty in the short time i been into lurchers and now im out learning with my own eyes. you think i dont know game turn aswell? you can try use my inexperience as an insult all you want it changes nothing. youre making out im claiming i been around for years, im not doing that at all, never have. i think you need to get a life mate, staring at your laptop all day waiting for someone new to it all for you to try and belittle to feel clever, you aint clever, far from it.

Hahaha.......mate I don't need to say anything to belittle you, you did that yourself with your outlandish claims that your little Paris Hilton lurcher would muller rabbits lol. Has for sitting behind my keyboard all day, don't make me laugh I get out plenty and my dogs don't just "worry" the rabbits mate let me tell you, when you know fck all mate its always best to keep quiet. :thumbs:

:laugh: These toy lurchers are this seasons must have accessory, Johnny!

Once you have finished brutalising the local wildlife you can simply pop it in your handbag and head home and if you get a pull no one is going to suspect you been running.

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crorider, take a wee bit of advice bud please, make friends with older experienced guy's like johnnyboy you'll learn more from them than any books, and there is no shortcut to experience and if you lived anywhere near me i'd take you out with a seasoned dog to see how they (and i ) work, there will be sensible guy's near you who i'm sure would do the same, i'm forever telling my headstrong and sometimes lippy 14 yr old god gave him 2 ears and 2 eyes but only one mouth for a reason atb

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Most of us, when we start out in working dogs, think we have the best dog in the world, or if not the best in the world, something pretty damn good. But, it is only after several, or many years, depending on how many other people's dogs we see working, that we can truly say if our own dogs are great, good, average or nowhere near any of those standards.

It's great that you are so pleased with your bitch, but she's still a babe. At around 20 months of age you should be thinking about how to expand her working experience, not her belly. Plus there's the dodgy part about having pups: finding good homes for them all. Look on any of the dog selling sites: there are literally thousands and thousands of pups being bred every year, and I know for a fact that their owners are having a very hard time indeed in selling them. And there won't be any 'word of mouth' sales if your bitch is so young and inexperienced. Not to mention the fact that things could go wrong (they don't often in lurcher births but it does happen) and you end up paying £100s to pay for a Caesarian during which you could lose the bitch, the pups or both. Unless you are financially and emotionally prepared for all these eventualities, I wouldn't even consider breeding.

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Seen that bitch run, aint seen too many dogs working cos i aint been in this game long but she's the quickest ive seen in a straight line, well trained and obedient. Runs straight down the lamp flat out from a massive slip every time. If a good proven dog with good feet and stamina was put across her id definitely have a pup.

From what i understand from everything ive read on here, you can turn a half decent dog into a real good one with time and effort and a shit one into an average one aswell. if Hes been working dogs a while and shes the best youngun hes had and one of the best hes seen, then surely putting a proven dog across her with good feet and stamina aint taking too much of a risk??

Only give the pups to mates who you know will put the time and effort in

No offence mate but you're opinion holds about as much weight as a ballon, you've got a yorkie x chihuahuh x whippet ffs. :D

 

Wasn't the OP asking for ground to run because he's moved and can't get out anywhere in a thread the other day? why are you thinking about breeding when you've got no permission where you live now?????

Yea i dont know if you can read but i did state that i aint been in the game long and didnt claim that my opinion meant anything. Simply stated id see her run and listed her qualities. If you look at what i said about breeding her with a proven dog with good feet not being too much of a risk it was phrased as a question. After reading other comments after i can see that maybe bad feet can be a massive problem not worth the risk, no thanks to you though. The only post you made was to try and mug me and the OP off. If you had an ounce of intelligence you wouldn't of bothered

Haha...right a dog thats fast in a straight line is next to useless in the lurcher world as stuff thats getting chased tends to turn quite often which if you'd been into lurchers long enough you'd know lol. Also the dog has bad feet so why the f**k would you add more poor stock to an already overcrowded with shit lurcher world !!

 

Is that answer any better for you, you're another who been into the dogs 2 mins and really should be reading and learning a bit. Now thats mugging you off ;)

next to useless? i see her kill almost everything she was slipped on mate, over shot a couple that was it. most of em she was on before they had a chance to turn, you never seen that before no?? Ive read and learnt plenty in the short time i been into lurchers and now im out learning with my own eyes. you think i dont know game turn aswell? you can try use my inexperience as an insult all you want it changes nothing. youre making out im claiming i been around for years, im not doing that at all, never have. i think you need to get a life mate, staring at your laptop all day waiting for someone new to it all for you to try and belittle to feel clever, you aint clever, far from it.

Hahaha.......mate I don't need to say anything to belittle you, you did that yourself with your outlandish claims that your little Paris Hilton lurcher would muller rabbits lol. Has for sitting behind my keyboard all day, don't make me laugh I get out plenty and my dogs don't just "worry" the rabbits mate let me tell you, when you know fck all mate its always best to keep quiet. :thumbs:

When i know f**k all? I started my post by saying im inexperienced and havent seen too many dogs working so whats the point in repeatedly pointing that out? Just thought seeing as i'd seen the dog in question working i'd say what i'd seen of her. If youve got a problem with me simply because i shared my opinion on something ive seen with my own eyes which nobody else on the thread has then you need to chill out. Or if it's just cos my dog is quarter chihuahua then thats equally as sad. If its over something else then feel free to pm me and explain what. otherwise If youre rude to me on the forum i'm gonna be rude back, but at least try to make sense when you do it.

 

And are you saying my dog cant kill rabbits then?

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Seen that bitch run, aint seen too many dogs working cos i aint been in this game long but she's the quickest ive seen in a straight line, well trained and obedient. Runs straight down the lamp flat out from a massive slip every time. If a good proven dog with good feet and stamina was put across her id definitely have a pup.

From what i understand from everything ive read on here, you can turn a half decent dog into a real good one with time and effort and a shit one into an average one aswell. if Hes been working dogs a while and shes the best youngun hes had and one of the best hes seen, then surely putting a proven dog across her with good feet and stamina aint taking too much of a risk??

Only give the pups to mates who you know will put the time and effort in

No offence mate but you're opinion holds about as much weight as a ballon, you've got a yorkie x chihuahuh x whippet ffs. :D

 

Wasn't the OP asking for ground to run because he's moved and can't get out anywhere in a thread the other day? why are you thinking about breeding when you've got no permission where you live now?????

Yea i dont know if you can read but i did state that i aint been in the game long and didnt claim that my opinion meant anything. Simply stated id see her run and listed her qualities. If you look at what i said about breeding her with a proven dog with good feet not being too much of a risk it was phrased as a question. After reading other comments after i can see that maybe bad feet can be a massive problem not worth the risk, no thanks to you though. The only post you made was to try and mug me and the OP off. If you had an ounce of intelligence you wouldn't of bothered

Haha...right a dog thats fast in a straight line is next to useless in the lurcher world as stuff thats getting chased tends to turn quite often which if you'd been into lurchers long enough you'd know lol. Also the dog has bad feet so why the f**k would you add more poor stock to an already overcrowded with shit lurcher world !!

 

Is that answer any better for you, you're another who been into the dogs 2 mins and really should be reading and learning a bit. Now thats mugging you off ;)

next to useless? i see her kill almost everything she was slipped on mate, over shot a couple that was it. most of em she was on before they had a chance to turn, you never seen that before no?? Ive read and learnt plenty in the short time i been into lurchers and now im out learning with my own eyes. you think i dont know game turn aswell? you can try use my inexperience as an insult all you want it changes nothing. youre making out im claiming i been around for years, im not doing that at all, never have. i think you need to get a life mate, staring at your laptop all day waiting for someone new to it all for you to try and belittle to feel clever, you aint clever, far from it.

Hahaha.......mate I don't need to say anything to belittle you, you did that yourself with your outlandish claims that your little Paris Hilton lurcher would muller rabbits lol. Has for sitting behind my keyboard all day, don't make me laugh I get out plenty and my dogs don't just "worry" the rabbits mate let me tell you, when you know fck all mate its always best to keep quiet. :thumbs:

When i know f**k all? I started my post by saying im inexperienced and havent seen too many dogs working so whats the point in repeatedly pointing that out? Just thought seeing as i'd seen the dog in question working i'd say what i'd seen of her. If youve got a problem with me simply because i shared my opinion on something ive seen with my own eyes which nobody else on the thread has then you need to chill out. Or if it's just cos my dog is quarter chihuahua then thats equally as sad. If its over something else then feel free to pm me and explain what. otherwise If youre rude to me on the forum i'm gonna be rude back, but at least try to make sense when you do it.

 

And are you saying my dog cant kill rabbits then?

Are you saying it can? It had one doubled up last night, hardly a feat is it? I've got no problem with you but since you've been on the site you got on your high horse because people weren't sympathetic to your Paris Hilton lurcher, now you're saying that this dog is the fastest you've seen in a straight line(whippet x greyhound tend to be fast) !! What I said is "your opinion means feck all to most because you haven't been in the game 2 mins" Now if you can't take criticism then your on the wrong site sweetheart. :thumbs:

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crorider, take a wee bit of advice bud please, make friends with older experienced guy's like johnnyboy you'll learn more from them than any books, and there is no shortcut to experience and if you lived anywhere near me i'd take you out with a seasoned dog to see how they (and i ) work, there will be sensible guy's near you who i'm sure would do the same, i'm forever telling my headstrong and sometimes lippy 14 yr old god gave him 2 ears and 2 eyes but only one mouth for a reason atb

ive made friends with older experienced guys like jonnyboy who arent always having a pop at me and a couple of them have taken me out on their permission for which i was grateful. Dont misinterpret what im saying though and think im being sensitive and cant take a little banter im bored of those comments now. But i dont think you should be telling me i should be kissing this geezers arse when he's ripping me? You, for example have never been rude to me, so ive never been rude back. If i had said something out of order or completely ridiculous id take it on the chin but my comments about what id seen of the dog fitted in perfectly with the topic. i actually stated in my own words that i know my opinion doesnt mean a lot on the matter when i said i havent seen many dogs working. So why point out again, your opinion means nothing? pointless insult.

I also dont think you should be comparing me to your 14 year old! I'm a grown man not a 'lippy' teenager. And if you read my post back you might realise my opinion on breeding the bitch was stated as a question for someone to enlighten me if i was wrong. So i dont think it makes much sense to tell me god gave me 2 ears for a reason when im actually asking peoples opinions. That 2 ears and eyes and 1 mouth comment suggests im just coming on here making out i know more than everyone and not interested in what anyone has to say, that couldnt be further from the truth. atb

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