Malt 379 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'm sorry Paulus, that statement is flawed. Quantum Mechanics teaches us that some things are impossible to predict, the Hisenberge uncertainty principle is the main reason why with even all the knowledge in the universe you cannot predict the future. Radioactivity is the simplest example of a random happening, you can predict it statistically but not when the next decay will occur. Read somewhere a while back that there's currently some uncertainty over the uncertainty princable, some experments have been done which show that things may not be as uncertain as previously thought.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19489385 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'm sorry Paulus, that statement is flawed. Quantum Mechanics teaches us that some things are impossible to predict, the Hisenberge uncertainty principle is the main reason why with even all the knowledge in the universe you cannot predict the future. Radioactivity is the simplest example of a random happening, you can predict it statistically but not when the next decay will occur. Read somewhere a while back that there's currently some uncertainty over the uncertainty princable, some experments have been done which show that things may not be as uncertain as previously thought.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19489385 Lol that sounded like something sir Humphrey appelbey would say malt lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,788 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'm sorry Paulus, that statement is flawed. Quantum Mechanics teaches us that some things are impossible to predict, the Hisenberge uncertainty principle is the main reason why with even all the knowledge in the universe you cannot predict the future. Radioactivity is the simplest example of a random happening, you can predict it statistically but not when the next decay will occur. Read somewhere a while back that there's currently some uncertainty over the uncertainty princable, some experments have been done which show that things may not be as uncertain as previously thought.. http://www.bbc.co.uk...onment-19489385 Malt, that was quite interesting. I'm sure you already know, the Uncertainty Principle is one of the cornerstones of Quantum Mechanics which in turn is one of the pillars of a Grand Unified Theory. So that is quite fascinating....... but as with the superluminous neutrino, I'll wait for the final verdict...... As I have mentioned previously, much of modern physics is theoretical and so open to a certain degree of error. The technology just isn't there for us to empiracally test some of modern Physics. But it still amazes me how something predicted using nothing more than mathematics and a beautifull mind 50 or more years ago is then proven to exist experimentally as the tech improves to the level required. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEo8sjnU8Jo&sns=em Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 In case someone wondered who I was talking about 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,788 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) What about the "INVISIBLE EMPIRE" then , THEN there is the notion of a Parralle Universe :hmm:did Einstein not believe this ? Just seen this Tam. Parallel Universes....... The Many Worlds Interpretation is one interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, it comes about from the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle I believe. It's one that many Physicists follow but to some extent is academic. I'm not sure whether it has any bearing on God or not though..... Edited September 24, 2012 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wullz 408 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Gotta love the creationists!! Dinosaurs! Fossils? Fekk off......Darwin rules mate..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Proffitt 142 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'm sorry Paulus, that statement is flawed. Quantum Mechanics teaches us that some things are impossible to predict, the Hisenberge uncertainty principle is the main reason why with even all the knowledge in the universe you cannot predict the future. Radioactivity is the simplest example of a random happening, you can predict it statistically but not when the next decay will occur. Read somewhere a while back that there's currently some uncertainty over the uncertainty princable, some experments have been done which show that things may not be as uncertain as previously thought.. http://www.bbc.co.uk...onment-19489385 Malt, that was quite interesting. I'm sure you already know, the Uncertainty Principle is one of the cornerstones of Quantum Mechanics which in turn is one of the pillars of a Grand Unified Theory. So that is quite fascinating....... but as with the superluminous neutrino, I'll wait for the final verdict...... As I have mentioned previously, much of modern physics is theoretical and so open to a certain degree of error. I'd say anything that is theorectical is by definition predisposed to error. If it wasn't , it'd be a fact. By the way, I like this guy Born Hunter. He's intelligent enough to call you an idiot without you ever knowing that he called you an idiot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Proffitt 142 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Gotta love the creationists!! Dinosaurs! Fossils? Fekk off......Darwin rules mate..... Evolution is a whole seperate topic , mate. I know alot of people who have no problem with creationism and evolution co-existing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Lol@ Aaron aye born hunter is clever laddie, he certainly someone I could sit down and have a discussion with. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Proffitt 142 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Lol@ Aaron aye born hunter is clever laddie, he certainly someone I could sit down and have a discussion with. Indeed he is... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 but if they are Christians, then "god" would love them??? anyone who believes in any god is f*****g mental imo.......... I could say anybody who pretends to be an obssessed Liverpool fan when they are not from Liverpool or ever go to Liverpool games is f****n mental......................but fortunately im not that ignorant and accept it takes all sorts to make the world go round even if i dont agree with it. give me one piece of proof that god exists............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wullz 408 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Ahh I see Aaron, they can pick and choose the bits to believe in? Look its a good story, made up to give weak minded folk something to cling on to, otherwise they would be offing themselves left and right at the prospect of living boring, meaningless lives, dying and then nothing! Its a convenient control mechanism for poor deluded folks....thats it. Grab life by its knackers and ride the arse off it screaming into oblivion....its the only way to go!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,788 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'm sorry Paulus, that statement is flawed. Quantum Mechanics teaches us that some things are impossible to predict, the Hisenberge uncertainty principle is the main reason why with even all the knowledge in the universe you cannot predict the future. Radioactivity is the simplest example of a random happening, you can predict it statistically but not when the next decay will occur. Read somewhere a while back that there's currently some uncertainty over the uncertainty princable, some experments have been done which show that things may not be as uncertain as previously thought.. http://www.bbc.co.uk...onment-19489385 Malt, that was quite interesting. I'm sure you already know, the Uncertainty Principle is one of the cornerstones of Quantum Mechanics which in turn is one of the pillars of a Grand Unified Theory. So that is quite fascinating....... but as with the superluminous neutrino, I'll wait for the final verdict...... As I have mentioned previously, much of modern physics is theoretical and so open to a certain degree of error. I'd say anything that is theorectical is by definition predisposed to error. If it wasn't , it'd be a fact. By the way, I like this guy Born Hunter. He's intelligent enough to call you an idiot without you ever knowing that he called you an idiot. Yes of course, mathematics is bulletproof, it's the language of nature and if your maths is right then your derived answer is right. The errors occur when assumptions have to be made and mathematical approximations have to be made for something that is unsolvable. The famous names of theoreticians that go down in history are bloody good at making the right assumptions and approximations. Not sure if you're taking the piss now or not though....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 You can't it's impossible to prove. Wasn't it Bertrand Russell who said there is a teapot orbiting our solar system. We can't say for certain it ain't there.but we all know the likely hood of it, is non existent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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