paulus 26 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 if you go back 100 years then alot of things were deemed impossible to predict because we didnt have the knowledge to do it, take quadratic equations or fractional fictorials. Before they were discoverd (by 2 welsh sheep farmers believe it or not) it would have been thought impossible to determin noise(inherant variation) within a machine just by mathamatics alone, so whos to say anything isnt predictable given the tools and the know how. as you say alot of things have to be in place for life to be created, well surely belief in a god would depend on if you could prove or disprove that these conditions were random or not and again given at this point in time theres isnt the knowledge available to prove or disprove it either way ill stick with an open mind Everyone should keep an open mind, just don't loose objectivity. next you will be telling me the tooth fairy isnt real Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,751 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 if you go back 100 years then alot of things were deemed impossible to predict because we didnt have the knowledge to do it, take quadratic equations or fractional fictorials. Before they were discoverd (by 2 welsh sheep farmers believe it or not) it would have been thought impossible to determin noise(inherant variation) within a machine just by mathamatics alone, so whos to say anything isnt predictable given the tools and the know how. as you say alot of things have to be in place for life to be created, well surely belief in a god would depend on if you could prove or disprove that these conditions were random or not and again given at this point in time theres isnt the knowledge available to prove or disprove it either way ill stick with an open mind Everyone should keep an open mind, just don't loose objectivity. next you will be telling me the tooth fairy isnt real that bloody tooth fairy ows me a few quid .. anyone know were she lives? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,818 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 if you go back 100 years then alot of things were deemed impossible to predict because we didnt have the knowledge to do it, take quadratic equations or fractional fictorials. Before they were discoverd (by 2 welsh sheep farmers believe it or not) it would have been thought impossible to determin noise(inherant variation) within a machine just by mathamatics alone, so whos to say anything isnt predictable given the tools and the know how. as you say alot of things have to be in place for life to be created, well surely belief in a god would depend on if you could prove or disprove that these conditions were random or not and again given at this point in time theres isnt the knowledge available to prove or disprove it either way ill stick with an open mind Everyone should keep an open mind, just don't loose objectivity. next you will be telling me the tooth fairy isnt real I've got a Fenn with a tooth on it............ if I catch her I'll let ya know............... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 if you go back 100 years then alot of things were deemed impossible to predict because we didnt have the knowledge to do it, take quadratic equations or fractional fictorials. Before they were discoverd (by 2 welsh sheep farmers believe it or not) it would have been thought impossible to determin noise(inherant variation) within a machine just by mathamatics alone, so whos to say anything isnt predictable given the tools and the know how. as you say alot of things have to be in place for life to be created, well surely belief in a god would depend on if you could prove or disprove that these conditions were random or not and again given at this point in time theres isnt the knowledge available to prove or disprove it either way ill stick with an open mind Everyone should keep an open mind, just don't loose objectivity. next you will be telling me the tooth fairy isnt real I've got a Fenn with a tooth on it............ if I catch her I'll let ya know............... i do believe in fairys i do....i do...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Aye labs real paulus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Aye labs real paulus foxy bingo :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldfinch2007 2,333 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 good night god bless Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,493 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Far as im concerned if you choose to embrace god and a christian life then good for you if you dont thats fine also i dont see why it has to be so black and white..... so if you have your kids christened or get married in church you have to be 100% bang into god and religion or else your a hypocrite what a load of ol tosh !.......Im nowhere near as educated as some of you chaps doing the scientific bit but i do believe in god and no scientific data in the world is going to change that......i believe in god because i can i dont feel i have to go sit in a church every sunday to make a connection with god.....................does god give all the answers no.....does god make everything bad into good no....................does god bring something to everyday life that otherwise wouldnt be there,for me yes.........i dont see why people would ridicule that....i support West Ham as well what could be more unexplainable than that but i still do 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Far as im concerned if you choose to embrace god and a christian life then good for you if you dont thats fine also i dont see why it has to be so black and white..... so if you have your kids christened or get married in church you have to be 100% bang into god and religion or else your a hypocrite what a load of ol tosh !.......Im nowhere near as educated as some of you chaps doing the scientific bit but i do believe in god and no scientific data in the world is going to change that......i believe in god because i can i dont feel i have to go sit in a church every sunday to make a connection with god.....................does god give all the answers no.....does god make everything bad into good no....................does god bring something to everyday life that otherwise wouldnt be there,for me yes.........i dont see why people would ridicule that....i support West Ham as well what could be more unexplainable than that but i still do so why does god let millions of little kids die in africa each year..... if he exists, he is the most evil c**t ever........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Nah he just hates niggers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Nah he just hates niggers but if they are Christians, then "god" would love them??? anyone who believes in any god is f*****g mental imo.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Oh wouldnt call them mental. I fail to see personally what the big drive to believe in him, I mean the same people I'm guessing don't believe in Santa or the tooth fairy, and they hold about the same validity as god IMO. however as I already said if they find comfort in it, who am I to rock the boat. Back to your original question though. Ministers and men of the cloth will tell you god gave man free will, which pretty much absolves him of any blame when it went pear shaped. I don't buy into that myself . It's a cop out. If he is the creator and the all seeing super being who created the world and everything on it,well he f****d up big time .even if there was a god, I'm not sure I'd want f**k all to do with him. He seems a right dictator lol worship me and you will be allowed into heaven, defy me and you will spend eternity in hell. Well quite frankly f**k you! I'd rather walk in to hell on my feet, than heaven on my knees! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,493 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 but if they are Christians, then "god" would love them??? anyone who believes in any god is f*****g mental imo.......... I could say anybody who pretends to be an obssessed Liverpool fan when they are not from Liverpool or ever go to Liverpool games is f****n mental......................but fortunately im not that ignorant and accept it takes all sorts to make the world go round even if i dont agree with it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,493 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Oh wouldnt call them mental. I fail to see personally what the big drive to believe in him, I mean the same people I'm guessing don't believe in Santa or the tooth fairy, and they hold about the same validity as god IMO. however as I already said if they find comfort in it, who am I to rock the boat. Back to your original question though. Ministers and men of the cloth will tell you god gave man free will, which pretty much absolves him of any blame when it went pear shaped. I don't buy into that myself . It's a cop out. If he is the creator and the all seeing super being who created the world and everything on it,well he f****d up big time .even if there was a god, I'm not sure I'd want f**k all to do with him. He seems a right dictator lol worship me and you will be allowed into heaven, defy me and you will spend eternity in hell. Well quite frankly f**k you! I'd rather walk in to hell on my feet, than heaven on my knees! A good friend of mine is a born again christian.......he rabbits on about all sorts of god related shit some of it i buy some of it go,s in one ear and out the other........like anything we accept what makes sense and reject what doesnt...........i just dont see why it has to be completely full on 100% belief or nothing at all we all take what we want from faith just because one man takes a bit more doesnt make him any " more religious " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I've met born again Christians , I normally get " I'll pray for you "! Aye good luck with that mate lol Like I said I'm happy that you And others get something from it. It's just something I don't believe in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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