Line breeding

[northern lad 2,292]

Topper is liver shunt still an issue in KC bedlingtons? a pal had one years ago that suffered from this I beleive it was quite common in the eighties,never seem to hear it mentioned nowadays

[northern lad 2,292]

Vixen,hope you dont think I was implying you falsified any documents personally I can see both sides of the KC/unregistered pros and cons,money aside,at the end of the day a dog is the same dog with/without papers,if it did what I wanted it to do Id be happy.Something nobody seems to have mentioned about KC breeders that really chaps my arse ,is the way some "exhibitors" breed litter after litter ad nauseum trying to create the perfect head,back,brisket etc many litters are whelped and not registered due to imperfect markings,poor ear carriage etc etc ,so that the bitch can be tried again with a different stud to correct said fault the very next season!!Not all KC breeders are obsessed with £££,there are plenty who put rosettes,challenge certificates way ahead of cash,in my limited experience of show people this type are far more dangerous to the breed than those chasing cash,some do both!!I was once offered a Japanese Akita pup,at the time they were going for about £500,this litter were £800,the reason?side on you could see the dogs chest in front of its legs.....

[vixen 528]

Vixen,hope you dont think I was implying you falsified any documents personally I can see both sides of the KC/unregistered pros and cons,money aside,at the end of the day a dog is the same dog with/without papers,if it did what I wanted it to do Id be happy.Something nobody seems to have mentioned about KC breeders that really chaps my arse ,is the way some "exhibitors" breed litter after litter ad nauseum trying to create the perfect head,back,brisket etc many litters are whelped and not registered due to imperfect markings,poor ear carriage etc etc ,so that the bitch can be tried again with a different stud to correct said fault the very next season!!Not all KC breeders are obsessed with £££,there are plenty who put rosettes,challenge certificates way ahead of cash,in my limited experience of show people this type are far more dangerous to the breed than those chasing cash,some do both!!I was once offered a Japanese Akita pup,at the time they were going for about £500,this litter were £800,the reason?side on you could see the dogs chest in front of its legs.....

 

I agree with some of the above northernlad, KC bitches cannot have a registered litter more than once a year which non KC can, this leaves a floodgate open to puppy peddlers and some idiots just breeding their bitch every season because they can, there are clowns in THE WHOLE of the dog world breeding far too many litters of dogs, just look at the for sale section on here, it's never short of so called "working terriers/lurchers" , and half of the posts on here are clowns breeding the dogs without a clue on puppy care, some of the photos turn my stomach on these sites of the poor pups bred by idiots sold to idiots and ruined by idiots!!

[liamdelaney 2,586]

a bit off topic, quick story to lighten the mood,called at a show nr kendal in south lakes,commented on the nice condition of a pair of lurchers,then in conversation i asked what they were like in the field as they looked in real condition,the bloke told me he didnt run em for fear of em getting cut and spoiling them for showing,priceless.thats why i dont visit many shows.

Many years ago I showed a staff dog in the ring,he was marked up a BIT,the KC judge she gave out to me most sternly for spoiling the looks of such a handsome dog by hunting RATS.Being young and foolish I got the hump for insulting my and Toro by calling us rat hunters,and told her in detail exactly what we were doing,the poor woman went pale with temper, and me and the falsely accused were told to leave the ring(the shame of it)Next month some rag mag in the UK had some bullshit about some Irish letting there staffs up pipes after rats.

[stop.end 4,079]

liam your as mad as a box of frogs ...

[francolin 449]

Liam as i said i visit very few shows these days,only a couple local to support the hounds,but even this year i was helping at one when i fella in a right state wanted to complain about the judge ,in this blokes own words he had 2 ehow winners in his car and didnt get placed,he was fumeing cos he had wasted his day,sad realy.

[Mosby 355]

liam your as mad as a box of frogs ...

 

Nuttier 'en squirrel turds... lol

[Mosby 355]

a bit off topic, quick story to lighten the mood,called at a show nr kendal in south lakes,commented on the nice condition of a pair of lurchers,then in conversation i asked what they were like in the field as they looked in real condition,the bloke told me he didnt run em for fear of em getting cut and spoiling them for showing,priceless.thats why i dont visit many shows.

Many years ago I showed a staff dog in the ring,he was marked up a BIT,the KC judge she gave out to me most sternly for spoiling the looks of such a handsome dog by hunting RATS.Being young and foolish I got the hump for insulting my and Toro by calling us rat hunters,and told her in detail exactly what we were doing,the poor woman went pale with temper, and me and the falsely accused were told to leave the ring(the shame of it)Next month some rag mag in the UK had some bullshit about some Irish letting there staffs up pipes after rats.

 

The idiocy of some people Liam. Your story made me think of this.

I ran a track deep into the woods with the hounds and terriers one night. I got lost and slept the night off in a hole just trying to stay warm in my sweat soaked jacket til daylight when I could meander back to the truck. Ends up I was a few hours walk as the crow flies and about 30-40 minutes drive going by roads in a car. So I went to the top of the mountain and got a ride out from another houndsmen who woke up at sunrise to come and find me.

 

Well a few dogs came back but two of my terriers never showed. I went to talk to a watchmen that was looking over that section of woods and told him I had lost two terriers. i told him they were red rough coated dogs between 20 and 30 pounds. And we were running big game with them. He says, "Alright, I'll tell people you've lost two yorkshire terriers."

I say " No! Hunting terriers. They're stout and hairy, ugly b*****ds. They run bear and bobcat. They're not little froo froo's"

"Gotcha" He says, "Two yorkshires".

 

 

I couldn't believe the moron. I went back a while later and he remembered me. "Oh yeah, you're the fellow who lost a couple yorkshires."

What an idiot!

[liamdelaney 2,586]

a bit off topic, quick story to lighten the mood,called at a show nr kendal in south lakes,commented on the nice condition of a pair of lurchers,then in conversation i asked what they were like in the field as they looked in real condition,the bloke told me he didnt run em for fear of em getting cut and spoiling them for showing,priceless.thats why i dont visit many shows.

Many years ago I showed a staff dog in the ring,he was marked up a BIT,the KC judge she gave out to me most sternly for spoiling the looks of such a handsome dog by hunting RATS.Being young and foolish I got the hump for insulting my and Toro by calling us rat hunters,and told her in detail exactly what we were doing,the poor woman went pale with temper, and me and the falsely accused were told to leave the ring(the shame of it)Next month some rag mag in the UK had some bullshit about some Irish letting there staffs up pipes after rats.

 

The idiocy of some people Liam. Your story made me think of this.

I ran a track deep into the woods with the hounds and terriers one night. I got lost and slept the night off in a hole just trying to stay warm in my sweat soaked jacket til daylight when I could meander back to the truck. Ends up I was a few hours walk as the crow flies and about 30-40 minutes drive going by roads in a car. So I went to the top of the mountain and got a ride out from another houndsmen who woke up at sunrise to come and find me.

 

Well a few dogs came back but two of my terriers never showed. I went to talk to a watchmen that was looking over that section of woods and told him I had lost two terriers. i told him they were red rough coated dogs between 20 and 30 pounds. And we were running big game with them. He says, "Alright, I'll tell people you've lost two yorkshire terriers."

I say " No! Hunting terriers. They're stout and hairy, ugly b*****ds. They run bear and bobcat. They're not little froo froo's"

"Gotcha" He says, "Two yorkshires".

 

 

I couldn't believe the moron. I went back a while later and he remembered me. "Oh yeah, you're the fellow who lost a couple yorkshires."

What an idiot!

If I was lost in the woods over where you are I would be shitting myself encase some pissed of bear came along and wanted to eat me,or worse fancied me!!!!!!!