Dog won't come back when lamping

[Dranny GLC 112]

Im running a 3 year saluki bull x I have only had him a year and he comes straight back when out in the day but once I slip him at night he won't come back and I av to go get him. Iv tried him with treats but he not interested. Any help please.

[driller killer 33]

Try running away from him, make him think his been left behind, worked for me in the past

[ruby16 80]

TAKE HIM TO A SMALL ENCLOSURE AT NIGHT WHERE HE CANT RUN TOO FAR, PUT LAMP ON AND SLIP HIM, WHEN HE IS PART DOWN THE BEAM TURN LAMP OFF AS IF QUARY HAS GOT AWAY, FLASH LAMP ON AND OFF POINTING TO YOUR FEET AND RECALL HIM, PERSIVERE WITH THIS AND KEEP DOING IT, EVENTUALLY HE WILL RETURN TO YOU AND YOU SHOULD HAVE NO MORE PROBLEMS, GOOD LUCK MATE.

[bird 9,872]

get rid of it! , get a pup and start again , if you make a mistake with it learn from it, when you get older dogs you are buying somtimes other peoples (mistakes) make your own not other peoples.

[birddog 1,354]

i'd try a wee bit of extra training, maybe a local park retrieving games in the dark with no bunnies or distractions first

[topmark 2]

if you work him in the day theres a problem from the start. im guesing hes hunting up when he wont comeback in the night. if you want a lamping dog you should allways start him lamping first before you even show him day work. he may come [bANNED TEXT] with time. stop workin him in the day for a start. intill you got him coming bk on the lamp

[Giro 2,648]

get rid of it! , get a pup and start again , if you make a mistake with it learn from it, when you get older dogs you are buying somtimes other peoples (mistakes) make your own not other peoples.

 

Thats a bit extream training a recall aint that much of a tall order

 

Whats the dog doing ?? hunting up ?? or just hanging back ?? Have you gave a a good thump for not coming back? Could it wary to come in because yout going mad??

[Adam_Chuck 256]

get rid of it! , get a pup and start again , if you make a mistake with it learn from it, when you get older dogs you are buying somtimes other peoples (mistakes) make your own not other peoples.

Great advice just keep passing on a dog from home to home. Instead of putting some time and effort into the dog just get rid. Top dog man !!

[paulus 26]

if you work him in the day theres a problem from the start. im guesing hes hunting up when he wont comeback in the night. if you want a lamping dog you should allways start him lamping first before you even show him day work. he may come [bANNED TEXT] with time. stop workin him in the day for a start. intill you got him coming bk on the lamp

a dog should be able to do both, hunt up in the day and come straight back once the lamp is switched off. if it doesnt its not woth the grass it shites on and that lies squarely at the feet of its owner/owners

[topmark 2]

i kno they should do both. but yoy start them lamping first. get it coming bk when lamp goes off. then when it knos the score with lamping. then give it day work then they can hunt up all they want. but then atleast the dog knos the score with lamping first. all down to experience

[events co-ordinator 353]

It was doing that with me too thats why I got shot of it

[Mixed Bag 603]

if the dogs not coming back cos its missed a rabbit then only slip it on rabbits that are a good way out and you think its got a right good chance of catching if it catches and brings them back give it lots of praise a tired dog is a more obedient dog give it lots of easy ones to build its confidence. and hitting it for not coming back wont solve the problem cos by the time it gets back it wont know what its been punished for

[bird 9,872]

get rid of it! , get a pup and start again , if you make a mistake with it learn from it, when you get older dogs you are buying somtimes other peoples (mistakes) make your own not other peoples.

Great advice just keep passing on a dog from home to home. Instead of putting some time and effort into the dog just get rid. Top dog man !!

 

how many times do you read on here having probs with my dogs recall most at night.? what i said there are the things you can get with buying a mature dog in, that the othere owners as f****d with. So do as you say go through and (try) to correct the dog which might not ever come good , or try and start with your own pup , and learn from your own animal. Its not rocket science is it, why do people want to (do) the hard way all the while :yes: and regards passing dogs on , if they trained them right 1st, might not get this prob to start with.?

[skycat 6,173]

TAKE HIM TO A SMALL ENCLOSURE AT NIGHT WHERE HE CANT RUN TOO FAR, PUT LAMP ON AND SLIP HIM, WHEN HE IS PART DOWN THE BEAM TURN LAMP OFF AS IF QUARY HAS GOT AWAY, FLASH LAMP ON AND OFF POINTING TO YOUR FEET AND RECALL HIM, PERSIVERE WITH THIS AND KEEP DOING IT, EVENTUALLY HE WILL RETURN TO YOU AND YOU SHOULD HAVE NO MORE PROBLEMS, GOOD LUCK MATE.

 

That's good advice, but I'd go one step further: take dog to where there is no rabbits, a park or similar: throw a dummy, rabbit skin covered, put the beam on the dummy, send dog for it. Practice this a lot, then send dog out to end of beam without a dummy being thrown. Dog will be looking for dummy, but then you call it back. Reward with dummy when it gets to you. Let the dog grab hold of the dummy for a moment, then tell it to give, and throw it again, put beam on it and let dog bring it back.

The idea behind this is that the dog comes back to you the moment you tell it to, whether or not it has caught or not. Reinforcing the dog coming back by letting it grab the dummy is the dog's reward for coming back.

 

Forgot to ask: does the dog actually retrieve? If it doesn't, then you really have to go back to basics, starting with tug play, which not only helps with recall, but also the retrieve (and yes, I know I go on about this all the time but it works and if you want I'll send you an email on exactly how to do it).

 

But don't expect miracles over night: it takes a lot longer to undo bad habits than it does to learn good habits, and the dog is probably fixed in its behaviour now, so you'll need tons of patience and not a little skill.

[topmark 2]

TAKE HIM TO A SMALL ENCLOSURE AT NIGHT WHERE HE CANT RUN TOO FAR, PUT LAMP ON AND SLIP HIM, WHEN HE IS PART DOWN THE BEAM TURN LAMP OFF AS IF QUARY HAS GOT AWAY, FLASH LAMP ON AND OFF POINTING TO YOUR FEET AND RECALL HIM, PERSIVERE WITH THIS AND KEEP DOING IT, EVENTUALLY HE WILL RETURN TO YOU AND YOU SHOULD HAVE NO MORE PROBLEMS, GOOD LUCK MATE.

 

That's good advice, but I'd go one step further: take dog to where there is no rabbits, a park or similar: throw a dummy, rabbit skin covered, put the beam on the dummy, send dog for it. Practice this a lot, then send dog out to end of beam without a dummy being thrown. Dog will be looking for dummy, but then you call it back. Reward with dummy when it gets to you. Let the dog grab hold of the dummy for a moment, then tell it to give, and throw it again, put beam on it and let dog bring it back.

The idea behind this is that the dog comes back to you the moment you tell it to, whether or not it has caught or not. Reinforcing the dog coming back by letting it grab the dummy is the dog's reward for coming back.

 

Forgot to ask: does the dog actually retrieve? If it doesn't, then you really have to go back to basics, starting with tug play, which not only helps with recall, but also the retrieve (and yes, I know I go on about this all the time but it works and if you want I'll send you an email on exactly how to do it).

 

But don't expect miracles over night: it takes a lot longer to undo bad habits than it does to learn good habits, and the dog is probably fixed in its behaviour now, so you'll need tons of patience and not a little skill.

. Sound advice,