Operator 3 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Gnasher16, I have a major problem with your comments. Two young women have died purely for doing a job most people would not want to do. You may not like police but are they any less important than soldiers? A lot of people do not value the work our armed forces do. Perhaps we should be more concerned that we have got so used to losing young squaddies in Afgan that it barely registers with us any more. The fact remains that they all died in the service of our country. Before you ask, yes, I am a copper, I also served in the army before that. I have spent the day since I heard this appalling news thanking my lucky stars that I'm able to put my kids to bed tonight. I won't be replying on this topic again as I don't wish to be drawn into a slanging match. I'd just ask that you think about what you post and the effect it might have on others. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alimac 882 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) Just googled it and it was a standard issue L109 grenade Google squaddie sells grenades in stoke pub It's now got this thread at the top of the google search lol I agree with gnasher re the armed forces lads, all they get is there name, battalion/regiment, next of kin informed. 20 seconds of air time maximum Edited September 18, 2012 by alimac 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,087 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'd just ask that you think about what you post and the effect it might have on others. I did think about it.............and said what i thought.............dont like it..........tough ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm with you gnash, truck drivers get killed doing there job but hey ho. And I don't mean to disrespect anyone but a frequent phrase amongst police when they use force is "We couldn't take the chance", well if that's the case then you must be under no illusions when you sign on the line as to what you might face. 2 average women in the street mean just as much as 2 coppers, McDonalds staff, or anyone else to me. Just a shame they were lured into an ambush the way they were. RIP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tegater 789 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm with you gnash, truck drivers get killed doing there job but hey ho. And I don't mean to disrespect anyone but a frequent phrase amongst police when they use force is "We couldn't take the chance", well if that's the case then you must be under no illusions when you sign on the line as to what you might face. 2 average women in the street mean just as much as 2 coppers, McDonalds staff, or anyone else to me. Just a shame they were lured into an ambush the way they were. RIP Make your mind up PJ, first you say: "you must be under no illusions when you sign on the line as to what you might face". then you say: "Just a shame they were lured into an ambush the way they were. RIP" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm shocked, there coppers on here? Lol Nah it's sad , haven't read it or watched the case but I'm assuming some kids are going to be heart broken. But hey thays the career they chose, And they have to deal with all the dregs And nutters, but they also have it cushty aswell. Just not today! Rip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) Gnasher16, I have a major problem with your comments. Two young women have died purely for doing a job most people would not want to do. You may not like police but are they any less important than soldiers? A lot of people do not value the work our armed forces do. Perhaps we should be more concerned that we have got so used to losing young squaddies in Afgan that it barely registers with us any more. The fact remains that they all died in the service of our country. Before you ask, yes, I am a copper, I also served in the army before that. I have spent the day since I heard this appalling news thanking my lucky stars that I'm able to put my kids to bed tonight. I won't be replying on this topic again as I don't wish to be drawn into a slanging match. I'd just ask that you think about what you post and the effect it might have on others. YOUR CHOSEN PROFFESION HAS BEEN DRAGGED THROUGH THE MIRE BY YOUR OWN BUD AS I SAID THE GENERAL PUBLIC HOLD YOUR UNIFORM IN HIGH REGARD BUT FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM THE POLICE HAS BENT OFFICERS WHO ARE DOING YOUR PROFFESION HARM YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS DONT COME CRYING WHEN ONE OF YOUR OWN FALLS YES ITS SAD BUT YOUR HALO'S HAVE FALLEN A LONG WAY RESPECT IS NOT A GOD GIVEN RIGHT ITS EARNED Edited September 18, 2012 by gonetoearth 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 From the grenade in the pub story: A military source said: "Nobody can understand how the hell a grenade could have gone missing. Heads will roll." Oh dear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm with you gnash, truck drivers get killed doing there job but hey ho. And I don't mean to disrespect anyone but a frequent phrase amongst police when they use force is "We couldn't take the chance", well if that's the case then you must be under no illusions when you sign on the line as to what you might face. 2 average women in the street mean just as much as 2 coppers, McDonalds staff, or anyone else to me. Just a shame they were lured into an ambush the way they were. RIP Make your mind up PJ, first you say: "you must be under no illusions when you sign on the line as to what you might face". then you say: "Just a shame they were lured into an ambush the way they were. RIP" What I mean is you accept the risk as a copper, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he was a Cnut and they had no way of avoiding what happened. As I said, I couldn't care what their profession was, it's just a shame that he decided to do what he did and 2 young women are dead. Their job doesn't mean anything, their life does Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 From the grenade in the pub story: A military source said: "Nobody can understand how the hell a grenade could have gone missing. Heads will roll." Oh dear. Bulls**t, unless they can find a batch/serial number on something and even then it gets narrowed to a minimum of about 30 blokes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I don't know, but I'd imagine it to be pretty hard to tax British army ordnance.from what I gather every round is accountable. Often see the yanks on jewtube firing off stingers and grenades for a laugh, but never British army. I would think that would get you kicked out on your arse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 It is fairly hard scot but it happens all the time. Lads have sold 9mm rounds in the past as they're quite hard to get hold of in the uk, a mate was arrested with 20 rounds of 5.56, I've found rounds after exercise in pockets etc. Let's just say that it probably wasn't a private who had access to it, so it goes to show there are arseholes in all walks of life lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,087 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 like police but are they any less important than soldiers? And incidentally............YES.....they are far less important than soldiers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Are the grenades of today, similar to ww11? As in they need primed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 They come ready to go mate obviously all the components are there ie detonator, main charge. Never tried unscrewing one though so not sure! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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