hw80 or tx200

[Alan Holmes 11]

Hi,

after time away from air gun shooting, I was looking to get a gun again. I had an aa s410 which was a great gun, but this time I am more drawn to the nostalgia of my youth and a springer. I have narrowed it down to aa tx200 , pro sports or weihrauch . I'm borrowing a friends hw97 at the moment and despite 3 rats in the back garden this week, I just don't fancy one.

 

Anyway any thoughts, pro's and con's of the 3 mentioned would be much appreciated.

 

cheers.

[chris k 205]

ide say the tx200 every time. its safe to say they are well built and surgical in the right hands. a real work horse. only con is the wait if you have noodle arms

[Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701]

if you dont fancy a 97 then you probably wont fancy a tx, both similar guns..

 

if you want a break barrel instead get a . if not go for the pro sport.

[AirgunGuy 362]

I was gonna suggest a 97k when i saw your heading but now see that you don't fancy 1. I have 1 that i fitted a v-mach to and it's a beast of a rifle. Best springer ever imho. I fired a few through a TX a couple of weeks ago and didn't like it at all. Springers do require time to get used to mind you. Any of the HW's should last a lifetime if well looked after. If you're after a lighter springer have a look at the HW95 and HW98

[old school 553]

the tx is heavy... lol my noodles arms find it so, especially if your on foot and maybe carryin a lamp!! but my god, its accurate! and its got great knock down power from a good range! i think mine is about 20ft lbs?

[pianoman 3,587]

I have both these Weihrauch and Air Arms spring rifles and I love both makers and have shot and hunted with both models for many years. What you are deciding between, is like choosing between an Aston Martin and a top spec Mercedes. Both are finely balanced precision-built machines that will deliver shot for shot as accurately as you are.

 

On the one hand my loyal and faithful German HW80 is as reliable in accuracy and field performance as the day it was bought 12 years ago. It's not as heavy as the British TX200 and TX200HC or, indeed as hefty as some would have you believe. It handles beautifully, shoots as accurate as you like and hits like a cannon. And it keeps on doing it without missing a beat, year in year out. In my honest opinion it is the finest, most accurate break-barrel spring air rifle in the world.

 

The TX200 and TX200HC on the other hand is a sweet, smooth shooting underlever rifle that needs no further tuning in my opinion. It performs like a tuned spring rifle out of the box and is blisteringly accurate whichever calibre you prefer. The TX200HC is a particularly brilliant rifle in .177.

 

But the most accurate, supremely built, all-round spring air rifle of all...is the Weihrauch HW77. It beats them all.

 

And I love them all, to bits

 

Pianoman.

Edited September 16, 2012 by pianoman

[bigmac 97kt 13,807]

both are top class rifles good luck making that dission mate its a hard one but if i were you take notice of what piano man has told you as he is one of the best spring rifle shooters in the uk atvbmac

[Froudy 40]

Both good guns but I would go for a hw if it was me as the tx200 gets a little heavy when you carry it for a long time

 

ATB

 

Froudy

[deano26 16]

the tx is heavy... lol my noodles arms find it so, especially if your on foot and maybe carryin a lamp!! but my god, its accurate! and its got great knock down power from a good range! i think mine is about 20ft lbs?

 

Fac rated then?

I keep looking at the TX200, I think it would make a fine stable-mate for my 77k

 

best thing to do is go to your local gun shop and have a go with the both of them and see which one feels better to you,

 

Regards

 

Dean

[gurtwurz 792]

I own an ' and a pro sport and out of the box the pro sport wins for me, but when my tuned ' comes home I suspect that it'll be my 'go to' gun as I prefer the handling of the . The comb on the stock of the ' could do with being an inch higher but if you're using a 3-9x40 or similar sized scope it wouldn't be a problem.

 

Cheers, wurz

[andyfr1968 772]

Neither gun's better than the other, they're just different. That said, if you're wanting it to go on your ticket the wins hands down. 20 plus ft-lbs is within easy reach without ruining the rifle. The TX however, turns into a total dog once past around 16 so there's really no point.

[pianoman 3,587]

both are top class rifles good luck making that dission mate its a hard one but if i were you take notice of what piano man has told you as he is one of the best spring rifle shooters in the uk atvbmac

That's very kind of you to say Mac. Thank you dear lad.

 

Hope you get back on top with a new rifle to replace your HW97K soon mate. Can't have good lads without a good rifle!

 

If I have to choose just one. it's the HW80 for me. For its lighter handling and portability with an easy-to-fit sling position, it has the TX200 beat on those two points for certain. There's ease of servicing and incredible accuracy where both are as good.

 

I do have a few issues with the TX200's features design.

 

The TX200HC rifle underlever latch-up is not strong enough to lock securely with a sling fitted and can occasionally come undone to hang off your shoulder. If you fit it lower it fouls the cocking lever with the forestock and prevents safe, easy cocking. That's a problem I've cured on the longer rifle version by not having one fitted to begin with. And the longer underlever of the rifle version tends to wander left and right of the ball detent lock-up; instead of a clean, swift return to the locking latch exactly as Weihrauch underlevers do. Also, the Latch-block on the longer TX rifle, that locks the underlever in place is held on with a single Hex-screw and has an annoying tendancy to unscrew itself from the barrel after time in use and the bloody thing comes off! So a hex-wrench in your field kitbag comes in handy.

 

Issues with the HW80?

 

Other than a wish to see a slightly slimmer forestock as the MkII I have, has? NONE WHATSOEVER!!

 

Nothing beats this rifle for simple ease and rugged durability. And my God is it accurate!

 

Pianoman

[bigmac 97kt 13,807]

both are top class rifles good luck making that dission mate its a hard one but if i were you take notice of what piano man has told you as he is one of the best spring rifle shooters in the uk atvbmac

That's very kind of you to say Mac. Thank you dear lad.

 

Hope you get back on top with a new rifle to replace your HW97K soon mate. Can't have good lads without a good rifle!

 

If I have to choose just one. it's the HW80 for me. For its lighter handling and portability with an easy-to-fit sling position, it has the TX200 beat on those two points for certain. There's ease of servicing and incredible accuracy where both are as good.

 

I do have a few issues with the TX200's features design.

 

The TX200HC rifle underlever latch-up is not strong enough to lock securely with a sling fitted and can occasionally come undone to hang off your shoulder. If you fit it lower it fouls the cocking lever with the forestock and prevents safe, easy cocking. That's a problem I've cured on the longer rifle version by not having one fitted to begin with. And the longer underlever of the rifle version tends to wander left and right of the ball detent lock-up; instead of a clean, swift return to the locking latch exactly as Weihrauch underlevers do. Also, the Latch-block on the longer TX rifle, that locks the underlever in place is held on with a single Hex-screw and has an annoying tendancy to unscrew itself from the barrel after time in use and the bloody thing comes off! So a hex-wrench in your field kitbag comes in handy.

 

Issues with the HW80?

 

Other than a wish to see a slightly slimmer forestock as the MkII I have, has? NONE WHATSOEVER!!

 

Nothing beats this rifle for simple ease and rugged durability. And my God is it accurate!

 

Pianoman

hi bud i only give credit where credit is due and your highly thought of by a lot of lads on this forum and by me . now you may not like this simon but iv gone over to the dark side othow i still have my tx200hc so if iv still got a springer then the dark side has not taken over me completly and your right the tx wud bennifit from a locking catch like the 97 athvbmac

[Marksman 934]

Ive just acquired an HW80K and its feckin fantastic, the best break barrel Ive ever owned and fired.

Pic to follow in another thread shortly

 

Darryl

Edited September 17, 2012 by Marksman

[Alvaston_Shooter 1]

Another vote for the 80K here, but that's probably only because it's tuned. I have a TX200HC too but that's standard, still an absolute pearler of a gun though, straight out of the box it's nearly as good as my tuned 80K.

 

My 80K is about 10 years old, it was tuned by Robert Lane and has a full barrel Rob Lane silencer/shroud on it which looks the dogs and works even better. Also has a full Venom trigger unit on it. It must have had hundreds spent on it but it shoots like nothing else I've ever owned.

 

With that said, if you don't want to spend more money on getting the 80K tuned then personally I think the TX is better out of the box than any of the Weihrauchs.

 

You're on the right track either way, none of the guns in this thread will disappoint you

 

I own a TX200HC, HW80K, HW95K, and an HW57. The 80K is my go-to gun.

Edited September 17, 2012 by Alvaston_Shooter