stocking breaking

[Twist 26]

Just wondering best way to stock break my pup

[Lampalurcher 47]

Walk him on a lead through stock an if he gets fixated by them or tries to pull towards them give him a sharp tug on the lead an say no

[morton 5,368]

Just wondering best way to stock break my pup

Get it in and amongst them,on a lead,do this time after time after time,i find it best to do this when the youngster as burnt off a few calories away from them,it is then more attentive to its surroundings.When the youngster shows no interest in them,whilst on a lead,let it off,walk through stock,time after time after time,the pup will react differently to standing stock as opposed to stock running away,be aware and ready for this,the more it see,s stock and realises its a no go,the sooner it will respect them.When you are happy the jukel is stock broken,train it again.

[jigsaw 11,889]

I started mine at 14 weeks old,walked him through them 3-4 times a day when out on the farms i work.Once hes amongst them regular he accepts them as part of the scenery,I still get him in there as you see from the photos above and hes almost 3 years old now.Never take it for granted,keep reinforceing the fact that mutton is off the menu.If he is very young and starts to chase,have a news paper rolled up and give him a good belt of it when he chases with a definite no shouted to him.its very easy ONCE you put the time and effort in and the peace of mind when out with them is worth a lot.

Edited September 15, 2012 by jigsaw

[Twist 26]

Thanks was told by someone the other day was wait till he is older and put him in a pen with a ram bit thought i would ask on here

[J.DOG 1,355]

Thanks was told by someone the other day was wait till he is older and put him in a pen with a ram bit thought i would ask on here

No defo don't do that , that is a last resort , sticking a dog in with a ram can do more harm than good

 

Some sound advice lads

Edited September 15, 2012 by J.DOG

[tank34 2,369]

get pup round all farm stock and ferrets mate as much as can,putting in with ram can spoil a dog.

[morton 5,368]

Thanks was told by someone the other day was wait till he is older and put him in a pen with a ram bit thought i would ask on here

An unruly pup that otherwise refuses to succumb to basic training may well benefit from the attention of a testoterone fuelled tup,better to be hard on a dog to reinforce training,than have a dog that cannot be trusted and later culled.

[Twist 26]

Ok cheers thought it would have been a stupid thing to do but thought i would ask people with more experiance

[Tiny 7 1,694]

Fcuk them ways fellah, A big ram and a young pup just dont mix penned up even heard of others collaring a sheep and young un together (Look at the old timers brecking the teeth on ferrets and feeding bread and milk them days are gone and we know better know better these days ),

 

Just get them amonest sheep/stock from there first jab and build up from there the more the better and correct them as you go......

[jigsaw 11,889]

good advice morton,if the pup goes full on for the sheep,make sure it regrets it and it will always remember that.I have flaked the hell out of a pup when necessary and I dont think I ever had to do it twice,but it was always with a news paper.Never with anything harder.I can now sit with my back to both the shepp and dog knowing all is well out of interest how old is the pup?

[Twist 26]

good advice morton,if the pup goes full on for the sheep,make sure it regrets it and it will always remember that.I have flaked the hell out of a pup when necessary and I dont think I ever had to do it twice,but it was always with a news paper.Never with anything harder.I can now sit with my back to both the shepp and dog knowing all is well out of interest how old is the pup?

 

16 weeks

[jigsaw 11,889]

perfect time to start,just mosie amongst the flock,ignoring them all together and keep a sharp eye on the pup.I bet he wont even look at chasing one and will probably be nervous if anything.Its a great feeling when a farmer that doesnt know ye,runs waving his arms in panic and shouting........SHEEP......SHEEP IN THE FIELD then when he catches up you show him theres no need to fret,the pooch is a sure bet it gets ye places too............jail.........no only joking just make sure you walk with just the pup and no other dog for the time being and no other person either,you can concentrate better that way.its one of THE most important lessons in any dogs life time in my opinion.Now im going back to the beer,nite.

[beast 1,884]

some good advice here. one little thing which i like to do is that once the pup seems good on the lead with the sheep, i put a very long line on it (50 feet or so) to trick him into thinking there is no lead on. i know that maybe i worry too much about this, but it allows me to feel more confident about the pups likely reaction to the sheep before taking the final plunge of turnin him loose. good luck with your pup, let us know how you get on

[jigsaw 11,889]

at 16 weeks old though beast,i dont think theres any need to worry like that.the sheep look at the small pup as nothing more than a nuisance.When the pup hits 6 months on,I think that could be an option.I think that is why you should start a pup off stock breaking the minute hes had all his jabs done.Pity the pup wasnt about at the time the lambs were born cause the ewes would head butt the shite out of him if he got too close to the lambs.My farmer friend has usually 50 odd lambs to be bottle reared,I jump into the shed with the pup and the lambs just climb all over you and the pup. this overwhelms the pup and puts it on the back foot and after a few of these sessions,all the pup wants to do is get as far away from sheep as possible.