appletree318is 21 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Hi, I've been using a scope that came with a daystate air rifle I bought a few moths ago. It has a 30 30 retical and I don't realy get on with it after I used to have a Hawke night eye with a mildot retical so I went to a shop to look at a new scope and what mine might be work trade in. After the guy in the shop had looked at my scope said it was a fake as it said made in China on it. As at the time I was also having trouble zeroing it, so thought it might be because it was fake although it looks good. Has anybody else seen anything like this? It looks well made and is smooth and as far as I can tell it looks like a legend scope very highly polished. I've been looking at Hawke panorama scopes in 4x12x40ao and the MTC mamba lite after being impressed with a friends MTC viper. Any advice on which would be better and if the mamba is worth the extra money would be much appreciated. Quote Link to post
toxo 160 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I got caught with one of these too some time ago. Ended up paying around £20 for it from a fleabay seller. Wouldn't have paid that if I'd realised at the time that it wouldn't hold zero. Had I done my research I would have known that Bushnell don't make an illuminated reticle 3-9x56EG. Seems a shame really. All the elements are there cept it won't hold zero. It's a minefield out there and it's not just Bushnell either. I'm willing to bet that we're not the only ones who've spent time trying to zero a dud scope and wondering what we're doing wrong. Quote Link to post
Acuspell 329 Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 It never pays to buy cheapest. You will always come unstuck with some of it, some you might be lucky, but the others will make up for it. I would advise you to look at the Nion range. They are the best value for money on the market and the optics are very nearly as good as Schmidt & Bender, closer to Zeiss and Swarovski and Kahles. 3-9x40 prostaff (not even an expensive scope) is only 5 minutes behind the Zeiss, Swarovski and Kahles in a side by side test, looking at a DJB roe deer target set up under the hedge LOOKING INTO THE SUNSET. The target was in the shadows and the light was dead ahead, the worst case scenario we could think of! To see to shoot the three expensive scopes (like 6x - 8x the price!) only gave 5 minutes more shooting time. The Nikon held up that well. The Leupold was the brightest, but the cross hairs were indefinable. We could see the target, but not the cross hair to shoot. The Schmidt & Bender gave 8 minutes longer shooting time than the Nikon, but at a cost of nearly £1500 versus the £165 of the Nikon. The BDC reticule makes it very simple to aim off too. VERY crisp sight picture, uncluttered reticule gives clear view of target, ballistic circles are see through, so you can see to aim precisely even on a small target such as a crow at 200 yards. I have no link with Nikon or their sellers, but have been blown away by what Nikon have achieved in their simple, rugged, compact scopes. The Monarch range is better again, but twice the price of the Prostaff. I would buy one in a heartbeat if my Swarvski ever goes wrong. Quote Link to post
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