Presa Canario x Saluki Bull Grey for stud??

[crorider 174]

think one would catch a rabbit with ease seen a few and there big powerfull dogs atb

catch a rabbit with ease? Are you having a laugh mate? Ask j1985.

maybe i shouldnt of wrote with ease my mistake but crorider you can a cheeky we pr--k at times anyway good hunting

And you can be a stupid wee c_nt at times anyway good hunting

ouch crorider we can all be stupid at times lol for someone who has not got a lot of experiance you have alot of knowledge with your replies you either have alot of books or your fond of google lol atb

Everything ive read has been from thl mate and everything ive seen has been with my own eyes. Just thought id be on the other end of a ripping for once seeing as if i came out with the 'abd catch rabbits in the open with ease' comment the thread would be about 50 pages long by now with nothing but pisstaking.

[nothernlite 18,077]

think one would catch a rabbit with ease seen a few and there big powerfull dogs atb

catch a rabbit with ease? Are you having a laugh mate? Ask j1985.

maybe i shouldnt of wrote with ease my mistake but crorider you can a cheeky we pr--k at times anyway good hunting

And you can be a stupid wee c_nt at times anyway good hunting

ouch crorider we can all be stupid at times lol for someone who has not got a lot of experiance you have alot of knowledge with your replies you either have alot of books or your fond of google lol atb

Everything ive read has been from thl mate and everything ive seen has been with my own eyes. Just thought id be on the other end of a ripping for once seeing as if i came out with the 'abd catch rabbits in the open with ease' comment the thread would be about 50 pages long by now with nothing but pisstaking.

i never mentioned open with ease anyway maybe the 50 pages of piss taking idea should tell you something away out ferreting and get some experience atb

[Ausnick 190]

think one would catch a rabbit with ease seen a few and there big powerfull dogs atb

catch a rabbit with ease? Are you having a laugh mate? Ask j1985.

maybe i shouldnt of wrote with ease my mistake but crorider you can a cheeky we pr--k at times anyway good hunting

And you can be a stupid wee c_nt at times anyway good hunting

ouch crorider we can all be stupid at times lol for someone who has not got a lot of experiance you have alot of knowledge with your replies you either have alot of books or your fond of google lol atb

Everything ive read has been from thl mate and everything ive seen has been with my own eyes. Just thought id be on the other end of a ripping for once seeing as if i came out with the 'abd catch rabbits in the open with ease' comment the thread would be about 50 pages long by now with nothing but pisstaking.

the difference is we're commenting off experience and you're commenting off stuff that you've read, and you don't even know if the stuff you've read is true. haha

[Millet 4,497]

Rabbits are the slowest quarry and pure collies will catch them on the lamp

I might be be wrong but forgive my ignorance if i am.. are rat's a bit slower than rabbit's i think i have read some thing somewhere before that's rat's can reach a speed of 25mph but rabbit's can top out at 30 + mph..again sorry if i am wrong..

[crorider 174]

Ausnick

 

I understand big dogs can be athletic and quick, Some sighthounds are huge and are capable of catching literally anything. Your JRT caught those rabbits by getting lucky, according to you and personally i think thats the only way an american bulldog would catch one aswell. Ive seen them run, theyre quick for their build yes but a healthy rabbit would always have a massive advantage, hence why i said it would need to get lucky. They may use them for large game but whatever theyre running and catching must be slower than rabbits. If i started a thread asking peoples advice on lamping with an american bulldog id be laughed off the site and not without valid reason. The thing im pointing out, is why do you think i shouldnt be allowed to voice my opinion? simply because im a newbie? If i wasnt at all qualified to comment i wouldnt but it matters not how long ive been in the game. Its just obvious. Ffs someones already pointed out that this guys AB's are particularly good dogs and the owner of them said theyd be left for dust in the open.

 

mate you realise rabbits are the slowest quarry to run? (well over here anyway) they're just agile, you do know that yeah?? the land over here is big and vast, giving the bigger dogs more time to wind up. the person that started this topic said his dog "has started to take rabbits without any training or encouragement and is very game" and you're saying he's onto something because it's half presa, I'm sorry but I don't see anything special about it. and how do you know my dog got lucky? the holes are few and far between, when my jrt got onto the rabbits they all ran away from their holes and kept going and had no other options just to keep running and rabbits aren't made to run for very long... your inexperience is showing.

Rabbits are NOT the slowest quarry where im from. They are quicker than an american bulldog! Simple, what is your problem with that? have you read this thread or just my replies? I cant keep repeating myself its getting silly now, youre ignoring the one person on here whos got the f****n dogs!

And i didnt say hes onto something cos its half presa did i! Theres a lot of reasons why i said he COULD be onto something, as you stated, rabbits are incredibly agile, so if hes taking them without any encouragement at his weight theres one reason. presa canarios can be completely fearless with a ridiculously high pain threshold not dis similar to that of a pitbull, so theres another reason. There arent many dogs out there that can better the power of a presa, another reason. I was simply stating that this guys dog might not be as pointless as a lot of have suggested. Granted it should have to prove itself in the field before anyone in their right mind would pay to have it line their bitch, but that goes without saying. So anyway, what do you have against the Presa if you hold american bulldogs in such high regard? Youre not making sense mate, you can refer to my inexperience as many times as you like but it doesnt change any of the facts that we're talking about here.

And as for your jrt, you said they seemed to run slower from him than they would a sighthound and turned too many times. Thats pure luck. You cant seriously tell me that he regularly catches good numbers mate, he just gets lucky once in a while

 

You obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say. You said he's onto something special because the dogs half presa and it can catch the odd rabbit, so can american bulldogs. All I'm saying is that it's nothing special at all for any dog to catch the odd rabbit mate! and how's it pure luck if it happens every time? and I don't go after only rabbits as I find them boring, even though I've caught hundreds I rather foxes, cats, hares and bigger stuff. What other quarry do you have around there for them to be the fastest things where you are? A rabbit doesn't have the speed of a fox, hare or deer, so what else do you have where you are, rats?? And I'm mentioning your inexperience as you obviously haven't chased enough rabbits with different types of dogs to see the point I'm giving. And not all pitbulls are as you say, there's duds in every breed. I can't say I've ever seen a presa before but I know of pitbulls that would have less pain threshold as a little whippet... not everything turns out how they're bred for so the dog would have to do a hell of a lot more than catch a few rabbits to be bred from.

youre really twisting my words now, i never said its special cos its a presa that catches rabbits. i simply stated that its traits and physical attributes COULD be a good addition to a lurcher? Surely you can agree with me on that? And if youre seriously telling me your jrt catches every rabbit he runs then youre either lying, the rabbits are slow as f**k in oz or the ones youre after all have mixi.

I also never said that rabbits are the fastest quarry over here, i said theyre not the slowest.

And i also never said that every single pitbull has a high pain threshold, thats why when i described the traits of a presa i kept using the words ''presa's can'', to stop you from telling me you know of 6 inch presa thats scared of mice and has no power. I could easily write a paragraph making out you said a load of shit that you didnt but what would be the point in that

[crorider 174]

think one would catch a rabbit with ease seen a few and there big powerfull dogs atb

catch a rabbit with ease? Are you having a laugh mate? Ask j1985.

maybe i shouldnt of wrote with ease my mistake but crorider you can a cheeky we pr--k at times anyway good hunting

And you can be a stupid wee c_nt at times anyway good hunting

ouch crorider we can all be stupid at times lol for someone who has not got a lot of experiance you have alot of knowledge with your replies you either have alot of books or your fond of google lol atb

Everything ive read has been from thl mate and everything ive seen has been with my own eyes. Just thought id be on the other end of a ripping for once seeing as if i came out with the 'abd catch rabbits in the open with ease' comment the thread would be about 50 pages long by now with nothing but pisstaking.

i never mentioned open with ease anyway maybe the 50 pages of piss taking idea should tell you something away out ferreting and get some experience atb

well we were talking about in the open so thats obviously what you meant.

yea it tells me what ive already learned about thl. theres a lot of idiots on here that feel great about themselves to belittle a newbie. Not everyone is as thick skinned as me and most newbies just disappear from the site without ever getting the advice they needed to become a responsible hunter. who knows what theyll end up doing giving the rest of us a bad name

[Millet 4,497]

Chill out Crorider.. ..this thread is surely a wind up..

[crorider 174]

Rabbits are the slowest quarry and pure collies will catch them on the lamp

I might be be wrong but forgive my ignorance if i am.. are rat's a bit slower than rabbit's i think i have read some thing somewhere before that's rat's can reach a speed of 25mph but rabbit's can top out at 30 + mph..again sorry if i am wrong..

rabbits can go faster than that in this country according to what ive read but maybe im wrong. but rats are defintiely slower. Twice now ive seen fox in full sprint along the farmers field chasing a rabbit and the rabbit actually looked quite a bit quicker in a straight line. Maybe the fox were injured i dont know but someone who runs lurchers round my way reckons fox are slower than rabbits?

[Millet 4,497]

[crorider 174]

think one would catch a rabbit with ease seen a few and there big powerfull dogs atb

catch a rabbit with ease? Are you having a laugh mate? Ask j1985.

maybe i shouldnt of wrote with ease my mistake but crorider you can a cheeky we pr--k at times anyway good hunting

And you can be a stupid wee c_nt at times anyway good hunting

ouch crorider we can all be stupid at times lol for someone who has not got a lot of experiance you have alot of knowledge with your replies you either have alot of books or your fond of google lol atb

Everything ive read has been from thl mate and everything ive seen has been with my own eyes. Just thought id be on the other end of a ripping for once seeing as if i came out with the 'abd catch rabbits in the open with ease' comment the thread would be about 50 pages long by now with nothing but pisstaking.

the difference is we're commenting off experience and you're commenting off stuff that you've read, and you don't even know if the stuff you've read is true. haha

well i read it from you lot for a start. dont matter what you say mate, american bulldogs cant catch rabbits in the open without luck, end of! (like your jrt)

[nothernlite 18,077]

chill out crorider i take it all back wasnt trying to beliitle you sorry if you feel that way you go out and get your own experience like the rest of us done its the best way to learn and happy hunting and i hope your we dog does you proud atb

[Ausnick 190]

Ausnick

 

I understand big dogs can be athletic and quick, Some sighthounds are huge and are capable of catching literally anything. Your JRT caught those rabbits by getting lucky, according to you and personally i think thats the only way an american bulldog would catch one aswell. Ive seen them run, theyre quick for their build yes but a healthy rabbit would always have a massive advantage, hence why i said it would need to get lucky. They may use them for large game but whatever theyre running and catching must be slower than rabbits. If i started a thread asking peoples advice on lamping with an american bulldog id be laughed off the site and not without valid reason. The thing im pointing out, is why do you think i shouldnt be allowed to voice my opinion? simply because im a newbie? If i wasnt at all qualified to comment i wouldnt but it matters not how long ive been in the game. Its just obvious. Ffs someones already pointed out that this guys AB's are particularly good dogs and the owner of them said theyd be left for dust in the open.

 

mate you realise rabbits are the slowest quarry to run? (well over here anyway) they're just agile, you do know that yeah?? the land over here is big and vast, giving the bigger dogs more time to wind up. the person that started this topic said his dog "has started to take rabbits without any training or encouragement and is very game" and you're saying he's onto something because it's half presa, I'm sorry but I don't see anything special about it. and how do you know my dog got lucky? the holes are few and far between, when my jrt got onto the rabbits they all ran away from their holes and kept going and had no other options just to keep running and rabbits aren't made to run for very long... your inexperience is showing.

Rabbits are NOT the slowest quarry where im from. They are quicker than an american bulldog! Simple, what is your problem with that? have you read this thread or just my replies? I cant keep repeating myself its getting silly now, youre ignoring the one person on here whos got the f****n dogs!

And i didnt say hes onto something cos its half presa did i! Theres a lot of reasons why i said he COULD be onto something, as you stated, rabbits are incredibly agile, so if hes taking them without any encouragement at his weight theres one reason. presa canarios can be completely fearless with a ridiculously high pain threshold not dis similar to that of a pitbull, so theres another reason. There arent many dogs out there that can better the power of a presa, another reason. I was simply stating that this guys dog might not be as pointless as a lot of have suggested. Granted it should have to prove itself in the field before anyone in their right mind would pay to have it line their bitch, but that goes without saying. So anyway, what do you have against the Presa if you hold american bulldogs in such high regard? Youre not making sense mate, you can refer to my inexperience as many times as you like but it doesnt change any of the facts that we're talking about here.

And as for your jrt, you said they seemed to run slower from him than they would a sighthound and turned too many times. Thats pure luck. You cant seriously tell me that he regularly catches good numbers mate, he just gets lucky once in a while

 

You obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say. You said he's onto something special because the dogs half presa and it can catch the odd rabbit, so can american bulldogs. All I'm saying is that it's nothing special at all for any dog to catch the odd rabbit mate! and how's it pure luck if it happens every time? and I don't go after only rabbits as I find them boring, even though I've caught hundreds I rather foxes, cats, hares and bigger stuff. What other quarry do you have around there for them to be the fastest things where you are? A rabbit doesn't have the speed of a fox, hare or deer, so what else do you have where you are, rats?? And I'm mentioning your inexperience as you obviously haven't chased enough rabbits with different types of dogs to see the point I'm giving. And not all pitbulls are as you say, there's duds in every breed. I can't say I've ever seen a presa before but I know of pitbulls that would have less pain threshold as a little whippet... not everything turns out how they're bred for so the dog would have to do a hell of a lot more than catch a few rabbits to be bred from.

youre really twisting my words now, i never said its special cos its a presa that catches rabbits. i simply stated that its traits and physical attributes COULD be a good addition to a lurcher? Surely you can agree with me on that? And if youre seriously telling me your jrt catches every rabbit he runs then youre either lying, the rabbits are slow as f**k in oz or the ones youre after all have mixi.

I also never said that rabbits are the fastest quarry over here, i said theyre not the slowest.

And i also never said that every single pitbull has a high pain threshold, thats why when i described the traits of a presa i kept using the words ''presa's can'', to stop you from telling me you know of 6 inch presa thats scared of mice and has no power. I could easily write a paragraph making out you said a load of shit that you didnt but what would be the point in that

 

Well what's slower than a rabbit where you are? and you're twisting my words too, no dog could catch every rabbit they run, I'm just saying my jrt didn't catch them with luck, if that was the case any dog that catches a rabbit would catch it with luck yes? I'm not even gonna go on with this because this is doing my head in.

[crorider 174]

it cracks me up how people keep telling me to chill out, i havent been anymore rude or aggressive than the people im responding to. and northenlite it wasnt you that i thought was belittling a newbie, sorry if i didnt make this clear. but it did make me laugh how you wished me luck in the same sentence as calling me a p_ick and expected me to take it on the chin

[crorider 174]

Ausnick

 

I understand big dogs can be athletic and quick, Some sighthounds are huge and are capable of catching literally anything. Your JRT caught those rabbits by getting lucky, according to you and personally i think thats the only way an american bulldog would catch one aswell. Ive seen them run, theyre quick for their build yes but a healthy rabbit would always have a massive advantage, hence why i said it would need to get lucky. They may use them for large game but whatever theyre running and catching must be slower than rabbits. If i started a thread asking peoples advice on lamping with an american bulldog id be laughed off the site and not without valid reason. The thing im pointing out, is why do you think i shouldnt be allowed to voice my opinion? simply because im a newbie? If i wasnt at all qualified to comment i wouldnt but it matters not how long ive been in the game. Its just obvious. Ffs someones already pointed out that this guys AB's are particularly good dogs and the owner of them said theyd be left for dust in the open.

 

mate you realise rabbits are the slowest quarry to run? (well over here anyway) they're just agile, you do know that yeah?? the land over here is big and vast, giving the bigger dogs more time to wind up. the person that started this topic said his dog "has started to take rabbits without any training or encouragement and is very game" and you're saying he's onto something because it's half presa, I'm sorry but I don't see anything special about it. and how do you know my dog got lucky? the holes are few and far between, when my jrt got onto the rabbits they all ran away from their holes and kept going and had no other options just to keep running and rabbits aren't made to run for very long... your inexperience is showing.

Rabbits are NOT the slowest quarry where im from. They are quicker than an american bulldog! Simple, what is your problem with that? have you read this thread or just my replies? I cant keep repeating myself its getting silly now, youre ignoring the one person on here whos got the f****n dogs!

And i didnt say hes onto something cos its half presa did i! Theres a lot of reasons why i said he COULD be onto something, as you stated, rabbits are incredibly agile, so if hes taking them without any encouragement at his weight theres one reason. presa canarios can be completely fearless with a ridiculously high pain threshold not dis similar to that of a pitbull, so theres another reason. There arent many dogs out there that can better the power of a presa, another reason. I was simply stating that this guys dog might not be as pointless as a lot of have suggested. Granted it should have to prove itself in the field before anyone in their right mind would pay to have it line their bitch, but that goes without saying. So anyway, what do you have against the Presa if you hold american bulldogs in such high regard? Youre not making sense mate, you can refer to my inexperience as many times as you like but it doesnt change any of the facts that we're talking about here.

And as for your jrt, you said they seemed to run slower from him than they would a sighthound and turned too many times. Thats pure luck. You cant seriously tell me that he regularly catches good numbers mate, he just gets lucky once in a while

 

You obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say. You said he's onto something special because the dogs half presa and it can catch the odd rabbit, so can american bulldogs. All I'm saying is that it's nothing special at all for any dog to catch the odd rabbit mate! and how's it pure luck if it happens every time? and I don't go after only rabbits as I find them boring, even though I've caught hundreds I rather foxes, cats, hares and bigger stuff. What other quarry do you have around there for them to be the fastest things where you are? A rabbit doesn't have the speed of a fox, hare or deer, so what else do you have where you are, rats?? And I'm mentioning your inexperience as you obviously haven't chased enough rabbits with different types of dogs to see the point I'm giving. And not all pitbulls are as you say, there's duds in every breed. I can't say I've ever seen a presa before but I know of pitbulls that would have less pain threshold as a little whippet... not everything turns out how they're bred for so the dog would have to do a hell of a lot more than catch a few rabbits to be bred from.

youre really twisting my words now, i never said its special cos its a presa that catches rabbits. i simply stated that its traits and physical attributes COULD be a good addition to a lurcher? Surely you can agree with me on that? And if youre seriously telling me your jrt catches every rabbit he runs then youre either lying, the rabbits are slow as f**k in oz or the ones youre after all have mixi.

I also never said that rabbits are the fastest quarry over here, i said theyre not the slowest.

And i also never said that every single pitbull has a high pain threshold, thats why when i described the traits of a presa i kept using the words ''presa's can'', to stop you from telling me you know of 6 inch presa thats scared of mice and has no power. I could easily write a paragraph making out you said a load of shit that you didnt but what would be the point in that

 

Well what's slower than a rabbit where you are? and you're twisting my words too, no dog could catch every rabbit they run, I'm just saying my jrt didn't catch them with luck, if that was the case any dog that catches a rabbit would catch it with luck yes? I'm not even gonna go on with this because this is doing my head in.

i havent twisted anything, you clearly said it happens every time. And like i said earlier i think where i live the fox are slower than rabbits, not to mention rats and others that i wouldnt want to mention

[nothernlite 18,077]

it cracks me up how people keep telling me to chill out, i havent been anymore rude or aggressive than the people im responding to. and northenlite it wasnt you that i thought was belittling a newbie, sorry if i didnt make this clear. but it did make me laugh how you wished me luck in the same sentence as calling me a p_ick and expected me to take it on the chin

i take that back crorider wasnt meant to be harsh in scotland thats short for decent guy lol atb