Presa Canario x Saluki Bull Grey for stud??

[Cunners 3]

As requested I've added a couple of pics of the Presa cross Saluki Bull Grey.He's about 1 year in the pics and has added a few kg's in muscle since. Hopefully they will open;

 

 

 

 

 

It seems some folks are getting off topic here. I repeat. I know he's not going to be better/faster than whats already out there. My question is will the Presa power and attitude bring something new to the table if put over a good bitch??

 

Cunners

[Millet 4,497]

My question is will the Presa power and attitude bring something new to the table if put over a good bitch??

 

Cunners

I very much doubt it would be classed a regular bunnie dog and the only thing that it may well excell at is killing thing's in a stop end after a dig if it was ever legal again to do so..

[Ausnick 190]

Ausnick

 

I understand big dogs can be athletic and quick, Some sighthounds are huge and are capable of catching literally anything. Your JRT caught those rabbits by getting lucky, according to you and personally i think thats the only way an american bulldog would catch one aswell. Ive seen them run, theyre quick for their build yes but a healthy rabbit would always have a massive advantage, hence why i said it would need to get lucky. They may use them for large game but whatever theyre running and catching must be slower than rabbits. If i started a thread asking peoples advice on lamping with an american bulldog id be laughed off the site and not without valid reason. The thing im pointing out, is why do you think i shouldnt be allowed to voice my opinion? simply because im a newbie? If i wasnt at all qualified to comment i wouldnt but it matters not how long ive been in the game. Its just obvious. Ffs someones already pointed out that this guys AB's are particularly good dogs and the owner of them said theyd be left for dust in the open.

 

mate you realise rabbits are the slowest quarry to run? (well over here anyway) they're just agile, you do know that yeah?? the land over here is big and vast, giving the bigger dogs more time to wind up. the person that started this topic said his dog "has started to take rabbits without any training or encouragement and is very game" and you're saying he's onto something because it's half presa, I'm sorry but I don't see anything special about it. and how do you know my dog got lucky? the holes are few and far between, when my jrt got onto the rabbits they all ran away from their holes and kept going and had no other options just to keep running and rabbits aren't made to run for very long... your inexperience is showing.

Rabbits are NOT the slowest quarry where im from. They are quicker than an american bulldog! Simple, what is your problem with that? have you read this thread or just my replies? I cant keep repeating myself its getting silly now, youre ignoring the one person on here whos got the f****n dogs!

And i didnt say hes onto something cos its half presa did i! Theres a lot of reasons why i said he COULD be onto something, as you stated, rabbits are incredibly agile, so if hes taking them without any encouragement at his weight theres one reason. presa canarios can be completely fearless with a ridiculously high pain threshold not dis similar to that of a pitbull, so theres another reason. There arent many dogs out there that can better the power of a presa, another reason. I was simply stating that this guys dog might not be as pointless as a lot of have suggested. Granted it should have to prove itself in the field before anyone in their right mind would pay to have it line their bitch, but that goes without saying. So anyway, what do you have against the Presa if you hold american bulldogs in such high regard? Youre not making sense mate, you can refer to my inexperience as many times as you like but it doesnt change any of the facts that we're talking about here.

And as for your jrt, you said they seemed to run slower from him than they would a sighthound and turned too many times. Thats pure luck. You cant seriously tell me that he regularly catches good numbers mate, he just gets lucky once in a while

 

You obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say. You said he's onto something special because the dogs half presa and it can catch the odd rabbit, so can american bulldogs. All I'm saying is that it's nothing special at all for any dog to catch the odd rabbit mate! and how's it pure luck if it happens every time? and I don't go after only rabbits as I find them boring, even though I've caught hundreds I rather foxes, cats, hares and bigger stuff. What other quarry do you have around there for them to be the fastest things where you are? A rabbit doesn't have the speed of a fox, hare or deer, so what else do you have where you are, rats?? And I'm mentioning your inexperience as you obviously haven't chased enough rabbits with different types of dogs to see the point I'm giving. And not all pitbulls are as you say, there's duds in every breed. I can't say I've ever seen a presa before but I know of pitbulls that would have less pain threshold as a little whippet... not everything turns out how they're bred for so the dog would have to do a hell of a lot more than catch a few rabbits to be bred from.

youre really twisting my words now, i never said its special cos its a presa that catches rabbits. i simply stated that its traits and physical attributes COULD be a good addition to a lurcher? Surely you can agree with me on that? And if youre seriously telling me your jrt catches every rabbit he runs then youre either lying, the rabbits are slow as f**k in oz or the ones youre after all have mixi.

I also never said that rabbits are the fastest quarry over here, i said theyre not the slowest.

And i also never said that every single pitbull has a high pain threshold, thats why when i described the traits of a presa i kept using the words ''presa's can'', to stop you from telling me you know of 6 inch presa thats scared of mice and has no power. I could easily write a paragraph making out you said a load of shit that you didnt but what would be the point in that

 

Well what's slower than a rabbit where you are? and you're twisting my words too, no dog could catch every rabbit they run, I'm just saying my jrt didn't catch them with luck, if that was the case any dog that catches a rabbit would catch it with luck yes? I'm not even gonna go on with this because this is doing my head in.

i havent twisted anything, you clearly said it happens every time. And like i said earlier i think where i live the fox are slower than rabbits, not to mention rats and others that i wouldnt want to mention

 

ok i have to admit I did over react.

before I started hunting with running dogs I always thought hares were the slowest, then foxes and then rabbits were the fastest, but I can tell you no matter what area you're in the rabbits are slower than the foxes and the foxes are slower than the hares. In my country we have the exact same foxes, rabbits and hares as yous do over there so there's no difference.

[Millet 4,497]

Foxes over here that i have killed before the ban are not faster than rabbit's..they may have more stamina and able to run longer than a rabbit but they are not faster..you may see the odd quick one but that is about it..

[bunnys 1,228]

As requested I've added a couple of pics of the Presa cross Saluki Bull Grey.He's about 1 year in the pics and has added a few kg's in muscle since. Hopefully they will open;

 

 

 

 

 

It seems some folks are getting off topic here. I repeat. I know he's not going to be better/faster than whats already out there. My question is will the Presa power and attitude bring something new to the table if put over a good bitch??

 

Cunners

some folk are to quick to be so negative theres been far worse breeds added to the gene plools of most old and modern lurcher lurcher types .the traits in the presa can to some be of quality . atb bunnys.

[Dannyboy23 77]

It's a fine looking animal that's for sure pal I would just keep going with it and see how u get on if u get some takers pick out the best bitch and have a litter pick ya self a pup and work it see what it does who knows u may well be on to a winner atb keep us informed how ya get on

[fay 75]

is there any 1 person on here that can keep there mouth shut when it comes to peoples topcs instead of helping use make matters worse have of use no fuckall and the other half like to stirr the shit it realy pisses me off to see people geting grief either answear the qs or say noting no need for the bitching at each other and the mods on here should be acting on this and not letting people argue firght and curse people down to the ground so mods and administrator enough is enough stop al this shit before this site ends up being shut down atb

[crorider 174]

I did try

[Simoman 110]

is there any 1 person on here that can keep there mouth shut when it comes to peoples topcs instead of helping use make matters worse have of use no fuckall and the other half like to stirr the shit it realy pisses me off to see people geting grief either answear the qs or say noting no need for the bitching at each other and the mods on here should be acting on this and not letting people argue firght and curse people down to the ground so mods and administrator enough is enough stop al this shit before this site ends up being shut down atb

 

Thank you for you insight after a month on the forum. To the OP, the dog has done nothing to merit breeding from, its make up is nothing 99% of lurcher owners would want in a running dgs make up and by your own admission the dog ill do very little. The rescue homes are full of lurchers and i fear this would just add to the numbers and misery......... The op also asked if the Presa would bring something new to the table, at best it will be a very poor second to the bull blood out there.......

[nothernlite 18,077]

is there any 1 person on here that can keep there mouth shut when it comes to peoples topcs instead of helping use make matters worse have of use no fuckall and the other half like to stirr the shit it realy pisses me off to see people geting grief either answear the qs or say noting no need for the bitching at each other and the mods on here should be acting on this and not letting people argue firght and curse people down to the ground so mods and administrator enough is enough stop al this shit before this site ends up being shut down atb

is that like yourself commenting on the hanncock post saying there crap and never had one and i suppose you or is it use lol no every thing and if it pisses you of why would the site be shut down for a bit of banter

[fay 75]

so this give people the right to abuse other people on this website then does it no it doesnt and for being on it a month ive seen more to realise thatt this site has no rules regarding abuse or treating people like shit so is there a right in that no and before u start on me ive every right to say what i want regarding this as ive seen enough of shit on it who owns this site ?

[nothernlite 18,077]

so this give people the right to abuse other people on this website then does it no it doesnt and for being on it a month ive seen more to realise thatt this site has no rules regarding abuse or treating people like shit so is there a right in that no and before u start on me ive every right to say what i want regarding this as ive seen enough of shit on it who owns this site ?

:bye:

[Simoman 110]

so this give people the right to abuse other people on this website then does it no it doesnt and for being on it a month ive seen more to realise thatt this site has no rules regarding abuse or treating people like shit so is there a right in that no and before u start on me ive every right to say what i want regarding this as ive seen enough of shit on it who owns this site ?

 

Wrong, read the rules. If you don't like, leave, simples. You mention abuse but can't type your post without swearing.

[fay 75]

is there any 1 person on here that can keep there mouth shut when it comes to peoples topcs instead of helping use make matters worse have of use no fuckall and the other half like to stirr the shit it realy pisses me off to see people geting grief either answear the qs or say noting no need for the bitching at each other and the mods on here should be acting on this and not letting people argue firght and curse people down to the ground so mods and administrator enough is enough stop al this shit before this site ends up being shut down atb

is that like yourself commenting on the hanncock post saying there crap and never had one and i suppose you or is it use lol no every thing and if it pisses you of why would the site be shut down for a bit of banter

to some 1 of your mentality its banter to any one who asks an honest question its cyber abuse i didnt say they where crap i said i dont like them there is a diffrence see its people like you who make a site like this a joke it seems no body is aloud have an opinon on here im not a mister now it all either but i do no what i ilike and what i dont like and people on here i dont like with smart attitudes which every second post has trouble on it so i dont see where the banter is

[fay 75]

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sites like this shouldnt have half the people on it and i say there is plenty more on here who agree with me