Presa Canario x Saluki Bull Grey for stud??

[Cunners 3]

I own an 18 month old Dog and I am cosidering putting him up for stud duties.

 

I would appreciate some advice on whether this would be an interesting proposition for anyone on this site. His Dam was full Presa Canario( Black Brindle) from J7 working lines. The Dog was a working Saluki Bull Greyhound (Blue) from high quality Welsh stock.

 

He is 27" TTS and weighs 40 kg's lean. All black with white chest flash. Very strong and quick, jumps 5 bar gates for fun. He has a really excellent nose. He has quite a lot of Presa features but he has thrown more to the Bull Grey in my opinion.

 

He was bought as pet but has started to take rabbits without any training or encouragement and is very game. Very sociable and friendly with all dogs and people. Easy dog to live with. Excellent guard as you would expect.

 

I think he would add size and power to many working lines. Was not going to stud him but feel it would be a waste of some great DNA. I was thinking he would make really impressive pups if put over a Bull Grey or Greyhound bitch??

 

Anyway, I'm interested in peoples opinions good or bad.

 

Cheers

[NOOK/ANNA 96]

To young and not enough experience imo. Dog needs at least 3-4 hard grafting seasons under his belt on a variety if diff quarry before even thinking about it. An then only if he's above average in what he's doing.

[CorkyJohn 808]

For a start only a mug would consider using an 18 month old dog, how much work has the dog actually seen? Impressive pups as in what? Size, looks?

Theres some long lines of tested bullx's out there so why use something that is untried/untested that can't produce any better than whats already available? I'm sure if you advertise him at stud in the CMW some idiots will line your pockets.....goodluck

[South hams hunter 8,924]

Well this could get interesting, personally you'd have to be a moron to use the dog

[Dannyboy23 77]

There are already to many lurchers sat in rescues of all ages from puppy to adults offering a 18 month old dog to stud is crazy when the dog is only picking up rabbits on the odd occasion there are a lot off ppl on this site that have fantastic working dogs bull x from great working lines there are ppl

That will pay u for a stud and that will only to line there pockets by selling the pups as from the best working lines you can find and these pups will end up being In The rescues because they didn't do what the man said they would it's a vicious circle .

 

Maybe get out with some guys that work dogs and really put the dog to work and see what it can really do if it's above par in 2 years time ( catching all quarry in good fashion ) then and only then offer him up for stud . Now don't get me wrong he sounds a very Nice dog and could possibly but some size and strength into a good line but it needs to be proven working dog and excel in its field atb with him pal and keep us informed on his progress

[Rain 232]

Would be tempted myself:-). NOT !

[j1985 1,984]

Dont breed this dog, it's a pup for one and could be a rubbish working dog...bagging a few bunnies means nothing both my American bulldogs could do that. Work it properly for a good 3/4 seasons like had been said already then maybe think about it. There's dogs out there already doing the job that could add size into a line.

 

Get a pic up

[crorider 174]

Dont breed this dog, it's a pup for one and could be a rubbish working dog...bagging a few bunnies means nothing both my American bulldogs could do that. Work it properly for a good 3/4 seasons like had been said already then maybe think about it. There's dogs out there already doing the job that could add size into a line.

 

Get a pic up

You surely mean a mixi bunny? The amount of stick i got on thl for wanting to run my dog on bunnies was a joke and he's half whippet!

[j1985 1,984]

Nope both got/get the odd one, never out in the open mind as they'd be left for dust.

 

 

 

[crorider 174]

Oh right i see, you mean in cover. Still, bet they were happy with themselves.

 

Cunners, do you mean your dog has had them bunnies from cover aswell? Cos if its in the open and they didnt have mixi, then id say your dog has massive potential. Not that i know what im talking about really as far as rabbits are concerned but i have a mate with 2 presa's and they are absolutely massive, powerful, big boned and very muscular powerful dogs, similar in size to a big american bulldog actually, so if you have a dog thats half presa, and catches bunnies in the open, you must be on to something

[GrCh 856]

Dont breed this dog, it's a pup for one and could be a rubbish working dog...bagging a few bunnies means nothing both my American bulldogs could do that. Work it properly for a good 3/4 seasons like had been said already then maybe think about it. There's dogs out there already doing the job that could add size into a line.

 

Get a pic up

You surely mean a mixi bunny? The amount of stick i got on thl for wanting to run my dog on bunnies was a joke and he's half whippet!

 

his bulldog's not your regular american bulldog you see outside the spar on a council estate.

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

Which of J7's dogs was the Dam out of?

[crorider 174]

Dont breed this dog, it's a pup for one and could be a rubbish working dog...bagging a few bunnies means nothing both my American bulldogs could do that. Work it properly for a good 3/4 seasons like had been said already then maybe think about it. There's dogs out there already doing the job that could add size into a line.

 

Get a pic up

You surely mean a mixi bunny? The amount of stick i got on thl for wanting to run my dog on bunnies was a joke and he's half whippet!

 

his bulldog's not your regular american bulldog you see outside the spar on a council estate.

i wouldnt care if his AB's were the fastest, most intelligent and agile AB's on the planet, they'd seriously struggle to run a rabbit

[nothernlite 18,089]

Dont breed this dog, it's a pup for one and could be a rubbish working dog...bagging a few bunnies means nothing both my American bulldogs could do that. Work it properly for a good 3/4 seasons like had been said already then maybe think about it. There's dogs out there already doing the job that could add size into a line.

 

Get a pic up

You surely mean a mixi bunny? The amount of stick i got on thl for wanting to run my dog on bunnies was a joke and he's half whippet!

 

his bulldog's not your regular american bulldog you see outside the spar on a council estate.

i wouldnt care if his AB's were the fastest, most intelligent and agile AB's on the planet, they'd seriously struggle to run a rabbit

how do you work that one out

[GrCh 856]

Dont breed this dog, it's a pup for one and could be a rubbish working dog...bagging a few bunnies means nothing both my American bulldogs could do that. Work it properly for a good 3/4 seasons like had been said already then maybe think about it. There's dogs out there already doing the job that could add size into a line.

 

Get a pic up

You surely mean a mixi bunny? The amount of stick i got on thl for wanting to run my dog on bunnies was a joke and he's half whippet!

 

his bulldog's not your regular american bulldog you see outside the spar on a council estate.

i wouldnt care if his AB's were the fastest, most intelligent and agile AB's on the planet, they'd seriously struggle to run a rabbit

how do you work that one out

 

he must do mate to make a bold statement like that.