gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 the whole of football is rank ive known it for years the money men most back in the day selfmade jumped up kunts sat in the directors box surrounded by mates and wannabes while the loyal stood on piss soaked concrete , the FA and its blazer wearing old school tie brigade ruling the dynasty lording it over the chairmans grounds with as ive said with toilets etc you would not see on a building site , looking back i am amazed hillbourgh never happen at another ground on a bigger scale years before , after it and the taylor report grounds had to improve all seater etc is it safer not in my opinion seating is to close together differant band same tune Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goldminer 16 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 My apprentice was killed at Hilsbourgh . He had gone there with his younger brother who also worked at the garage . One brother died and one brother survived . My workmate and another lad from the garage drove to the ground to rescue the serviiving brother and drove him round the hospitals looking for the missing brother . They all told me that the police tried to stop them from entering the hospitals. The surviving brother later told me that the police were hearding them into the ground with police horses. Justice at last. RIP Steven Brown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 My apprentice was killed at Hilsbourgh . He had gone there with his younger brother who also worked at the garage . One brother died and one brother survived . My workmate and another lad from the garage drove to the ground to rescue the serviiving brother and drove him round the hospitals looking for the missing brother . They all told me that the police tried to stop them from entering the hospitals. The surviving brother later told me that the police were hearding them into the ground with police horses. Justice at last. RIP Steven Brown. and the police on the horses were from liverpool bud sorry for your loss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) the whole of football is rank ive known it for years the money men most back in the day selfmade jumped up kunts sat in the directors box surrounded by mates and wannabes while the loyal stood on piss soaked concrete , the FA and its blazer wearing old school tie brigade ruling the dynasty lording it over the chairmans grounds with as ive said with toilets etc you would not see on a building site , looking back i am amazed hillbourgh never happen at another ground on a bigger scale years before , after it and the taylor report grounds had to improve all seater etc is it safer not in my opinion seating is to close together differant band same tune You obviously havent been to Stamford Bridge or the Emirates lately ....i go for a Jimmy there even if i dont need one just to see what the latest lines at Harvey Nichols are !!.......Grounds are far safer now than they ever were you could let a couple of 9 year olds walk into any premier league ground in the country on their own they wouldnt come to any harm these days.......................unfortunately what you gain in safety you lose in atmosphere and i much prefer them old days before football became a family day out......stewarding,football intelligence,cameras,ticketting allocations,safer structures...................will all prevent the old taking of ends like the old days or the tragic events we,ve seen in grounds of old. Edited September 13, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 dont think they will get thatcher lurch but the day she dies ill buy you a pint 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 the whole of football is rank ive known it for years the money men most back in the day selfmade jumped up kunts sat in the directors box surrounded by mates and wannabes while the loyal stood on piss soaked concrete , the FA and its blazer wearing old school tie brigade ruling the dynasty lording it over the chairmans grounds with as ive said with toilets etc you would not see on a building site , looking back i am amazed hillbourgh never happen at another ground on a bigger scale years before , after it and the taylor report grounds had to improve all seater etc is it safer not in my opinion seating is to close together differant band same tune You obviously havent been to Stamford Bridge or the Emirates lately ....i go for a Jimmy there even if i dont need one just to see what the latest lines at Harvey Nichols are !!.......Grounds are far safer now than they ever were you could let a couple of 9 year olds walk into any premier league ground in the country on their own they wouldnt come to any harm these days.......................unfortunately what you gain in safety you lose in atmosphere and i much prefer them old days before football became a family day out......stewarding,football intelligence,cameras,ticketting allocations,safer structures...................will all prevent the old taking of ends like the old days or the tragic events we,ve seen in grounds of old. so its a no brainer really....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 dont think they will get thatcher lurch but the day she dies ill buy you a pint and its my round after yours mate......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 so its a no brainer really....... I dont agree.....why not compromise......why cant grounds have 1 terrace where the " boisterous " ( for want of a better word ) fans can go.........no soppy birds to worry about no little kids.......still have the segregation but no reason why a bunch of lads cant go for a sing song and a knees up without silly little doris housewives telling you to sit down !............No reason to take every last bit of humour and fun out of following your club not everyones out for a tear up.............not anymore anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 the whole of football is rank ive known it for years the money men most back in the day selfmade jumped up kunts sat in the directors box surrounded by mates and wannabes while the loyal stood on piss soaked concrete , the FA and its blazer wearing old school tie brigade ruling the dynasty lording it over the chairmans grounds with as ive said with toilets etc you would not see on a building site , looking back i am amazed hillbourgh never happen at another ground on a bigger scale years before , after it and the taylor report grounds had to improve all seater etc is it safer not in my opinion seating is to close together differant band same tune You obviously havent been to Stamford Bridge or the Emirates lately ....i go for a Jimmy there even if i dont need one just to see what the latest lines at Harvey Nichols are !!.......Grounds are far safer now than they ever were you could let a couple of 9 year olds walk into any premier league ground in the country on their own they wouldnt come to any harm these days.......................unfortunately what you gain in safety you lose in atmosphere and i much prefer them old days before football became a family day out......stewarding,football intelligence,cameras,ticketting allocations,safer structures...................will all prevent the old taking of ends like the old days or the tragic events we,ve seen in grounds of old. back in the day gnash get on the program , yes on both counts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 so its a no brainer really....... I dont agree.....why not compromise......why cant grounds have 1 terrace where the " boisterous " ( for want of a better word ) fans can go.........no soppy birds to worry about no little kids.......still have the segregation but no reason why a bunch of lads cant go for a sing song and a knees up without silly little doris housewives telling you to sit down !............No reason to take every last bit of humour and fun out of following your club not everyones out for a tear up.............not anymore anyway i hear you mate, but this aint the thread for all that...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 back in the day gnash get on the program , yes on both counts Well if you dont think grounds are safer today than they were back then you must be going to different grounds to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) i hear you mate, but this aint the thread for all that...... Its a conversation on the internet its not a funeral wake ! Edited September 14, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 back in the day gnash get on the program , yes on both counts Well if you dont think grounds are safer today than they were back then you must be going to different grounds to me gnash i never said i dont think the grounds are no better well some are am saying the same shower are in charge are own ground aint the best but thats the problem we like the history and all the shit that goes with it you lot getting the olyimpic park or what Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) The chief constable of Yorkshire said today that he still believes the fans contributed to the tragedy. Unbelievable. As long as the police investigate themselves, cases of police corruption will continue. They must learn that in order to police by consent they must get rid of bad apples. Otherwise resentment will build. I am not trying to be smart after the event, but my team is Man Utd and when they introduced fencing to contain fans I vowed I would not attend any more matches as I did not want to be caged like an animal. .Where were the health and safety officials when the clubs decided to introduce these fences? It was a tragedy which could have easily been predicted. and the rat has changed his story again now their shouting for his head and now the foookers will know what its like to toss and turn all night wonder how many phone calls have been getting made compering stories over the last week what id give to be there in a few weeks months when they start knocking on doors and they will Edited September 14, 2012 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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