What rifle(s) did you apply for on your first FAC application and why?

[west country warrior 0]

Had SG cert for a few years now after a gap from when I was younger... Have a couple of fair size permissions with fox and deer on, so took the plunge in to FAC world 18 month ago...

 

.22LR vermin

.22-250 Fox

.243 fox/deer

.308 deer/boar

 

All with Mods.

 

All came through no questions, no restrictions and open ticket!! 1 request from Plod - please note all boar trips, location booking fees reciepts etc, for review at the 5 year renewal point...

 

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[seprim 32]

Hi

I have just applied for FAC, it was my first application. I have a permission for rabbit (yet to be assessed by the police) and also one for deer (and the odd fox) which already has approval for shooting over for deer and fox. I should say right now that my intention is to shoot deer, and specifically Roe Deer in Scotland, that is where I have permission to shoot deer under the supervision/mentoring of a competent deer stalker.

I have applied for 22lr +mod for the rabbits and .243 +mod for the deer (and the odd fox).

 

22LR - rabbits + vermin

I have chosen 22lr as the ammunition is comparatively cheaper than any other, it will reach out to 70 yards quite accurately (depending on the shooter, the ammo and the rifle combo) I intend to get plenty of practice glassing the terrain, choosing approach, setting up the shot for backdrop etc, safety drills when moving, stopping negotiating obstacles etc and getting comfortable with stalking using the gear I will be going deer stalking with.

I thought about applying for 17hmr as well for the rabbits but to be quite honest I don't have the money for this rifle as well as the 22lr, my rabbit permission is hilly and I have only one or two warrens out to 100 yards + that I may find the 17hmr an asset, but 17hmr has disadvantages like its noisy (horses in paddocks nearby, houses nearby and the ammunition is much more expensive than .22lr) - I will just have to shoot the rabbits with the 22lr and improve my stalking skills ( I could always set up some ambushes using machinery and such to occlude my approach so that I can approach unseen to within range in the case of the longer range warrens).. I intend to get a scope with a pretty good image and a fairly large objective lens (~45 - 50) as this will enable me to see a wider field of view I believe. I have also applied for a moderator for the .22lr. I have been recommended a cz with a trigger upgrade for this purpose, and many on this forum have cz in 22lr and can vouch for them.

 

.243 - Deer and the odd fox

Based on an old hands' advice, and some other info gleaned from this forum I have applied for .243 for the deer permission. The salient points were;

1. .243 is a common calibre, and one can choose the appropriate weight, velocity and energy from many manufacturers of production ammunition depending on your deer or fox.

2. You will almost certainly be able to visit a distant Permission, drop in on a local gun shop and they will likely have the round you are looking for or something else suitable, for the quarry you are intent on.

3. The .243 ammunition is relatively cheap, and on the permission I will be probably shooting at ranges less than 200 yards

4. The .243 has a milder kick than the .270 (my other option) and in the right hands can be as accurate as the rest.

5. Second hand .243 rifles are quite common, and a fairly good one will not break the bank.

 

these are my whys and wherefores on the rifles I chose for my first FAC application (posted beginning August 2012 to Kent police )

regards

 

Andrew

[blakes101 1]

Had SG cert for a few years now after a gap from when I was younger... Have a couple of fair size permissions with fox and deer on, so took the plunge in to FAC world 18 month ago...

 

.22LR vermin

.22-250 Fox

.243 fox/deer

.308 deer/boar

 

All with Mods.

 

All came through no questions, no restrictions and open ticket!! 1 request from Plod - please note all boar trips, location booking fees reciepts etc, for review at the 5 year renewal point...

 

Get in

 

You got an open ticket first time????!!!!??!!!!

[blakes101 1]

Hi

I have just applied for FAC, it was my first application. I have a permission for rabbit (yet to be assessed by the police) and also one for deer (and the odd fox) which already has approval for shooting over for deer and fox. I should say right now that my intention is to shoot deer, and specifically Roe Deer in Scotland, that is where I have permission to shoot deer under the supervision/mentoring of a competent deer stalker.

I have applied for 22lr +mod for the rabbits and .243 +mod for the deer (and the odd fox).

 

22LR - rabbits + vermin

I have chosen 22lr as the ammunition is comparatively cheaper than any other, it will reach out to 70 yards quite accurately (depending on the shooter, the ammo and the rifle combo) I intend to get plenty of practice glassing the terrain, choosing approach, setting up the shot for backdrop etc, safety drills when moving, stopping negotiating obstacles etc and getting comfortable with stalking using the gear I will be going deer stalking with.

I thought about applying for 17hmr as well for the rabbits but to be quite honest I don't have the money for this rifle as well as the 22lr, my rabbit permission is hilly and I have only one or two warrens out to 100 yards + that I may find the 17hmr an asset, but 17hmr has disadvantages like its noisy (horses in paddocks nearby, houses nearby and the ammunition is much more expensive than .22lr) - I will just have to shoot the rabbits with the 22lr and improve my stalking skills ( I could always set up some ambushes using machinery and such to occlude my approach so that I can approach unseen to within range in the case of the longer range warrens).. I intend to get a scope with a pretty good image and a fairly large objective lens (~45 - 50) as this will enable me to see a wider field of view I believe. I have also applied for a moderator for the .22lr. I have been recommended a cz with a trigger upgrade for this purpose, and many on this forum have cz in 22lr and can vouch for them.

 

.243 - Deer and the odd fox

Based on an old hands' advice, and some other info gleaned from this forum I have applied for .243 for the deer permission. The salient points were;

1. .243 is a common calibre, and one can choose the appropriate weight, velocity and energy from many manufacturers of production ammunition depending on your deer or fox.

2. You will almost certainly be able to visit a distant Permission, drop in on a local gun shop and they will likely have the round you are looking for or something else suitable, for the quarry you are intent on.

3. The .243 ammunition is relatively cheap, and on the permission I will be probably shooting at ranges less than 200 yards

4. The .243 has a milder kick than the .270 (my other option) and in the right hands can be as accurate as the rest.

5. Second hand .243 rifles are quite common, and a fairly good one will not break the bank.

 

these are my whys and wherefores on the rifles I chose for my first FAC application (posted beginning August 2012 to Kent police )

regards

 

Andrew

 

Well thought out Andrew. Good to read. Good luck and thanks.

[Wino 3]

17 rim - vermin

22 rim - vermin

extra 22 rim - target

223 fox and small deer

[iana 25]

Just 22lr and fac air gun. Wish I had applied for 17hmr now so will probably put in for a variation in the winter.

[reeking rabbits 15]

Been using air rifles for years was planning to buy a new air rifle but decided to get my FAC instead, took 7 weeks for applying to it coming through the front door.

 

.22 - vermin Control

.17 HMR - Longer Range Vermin Control

 

On an open ticket both with mods.

 

RR

[jamie g 17]

22 fac air

22lr [ mentoring]

17 hmr.[mentoring]

 

then i got a 22/250 6 months [ mentoring]

6 months after getting 22/250 i asked if i could have open on 22lr and hmr and mentoring took off 22/250.

it come back a week later all open with the help of two letters off shooting mates

[PlasticJock 539]

.22 and .308 fox and deer.

I wanted a calibre that could handle any uk species, but still be able to take fox.

[pete123 45]

.22 FAC air for vermin controll. During they FEO visit/interview I asked if I would only be able to buy a .22 FAC air rifle or could I use othe calibre such as .20/.25, I was told it would be solely for what I wrote down and he asked if I would be applying for anything bigger in the future? I replied I wouldn't mind a .22lr at some point so he wrote that down and a mod and expanding ammo. To my glee all on my ticket when dropped on the door Matt Friday! Never enjoyed my shooting so much since using the .22lr!

[Ghillie2506 3]

.22lr for vermin and 25-06 for deer/fox control

Now have .22wmr for vermin and 25-06 and 7mm-08 for fox/deer control

[murphymax 9]

22lr vermin , 222 vermin/roe deer , 243 fox/deer , still got the 22lr and have changed rifles to a Tikka 223 , Sako 22.250 , Tikka 270, all were on open ticket from the start

[pigeonshooter 0]

.22 for rabbits +small vermin

.22-250 for foxes

.243 for deer