jcm 2,327 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 On 06/09/2012 at 21:20, milliken said: To tell you the truth ive never really been a fan of this cross as in my mind at a time they where for one job and that was a terrier mans lurcher good round a hole but as a alround lurcher i never rated them another thought that put me of this cross was most the ones i seen where poorly trained pulling there owners round the place none retrivers poor recall and so on you know the types so im my eyes i thought i would never have one about me as they would not suit my needs i like a dog that can be trained to a good standered mostly it would be used for lamping rabbits the odd day time hare and a fox or two if the chance came up so how did i end up with a bull x pup thats what i want to know am i mad looking a challenge or going with the trend ? i was given the pup as i got the lad a service of a friends bull x dog who in my eyes is a great allrounder as good at lamping bunnys as he is anything eles i had all the intentions of given the pup to a suitable lad that was on the look out for such a cross i got the pup at 6 weeks and he is still here now 15 weeks i gess the little fella has grown on me has my view of this cross changed all i can say is yes as for the ability of it learning basic commands its top class and as good as the collie x i had at this age at 15 weeks he sits stands lies down on command with voice or hand signals comes to whistle retrives holds objects on comand and walks to heel he has took it all in his stride he is willing to learn and please so the next stage of his training will be the stay and moveing left and right with hand signalls and the one he has mastered so far only from abit more distance ill keep you up dated on his progress or his set backs and a few pics but the point of this topic is the bullx abilty as a allrounder whats your views on this and the abilty to train them to a hight standered all the best and hope you all have a good season robert My bull x could of been trained to a higher standard than he is no doubt about that but I'd of just been wasting my time in some areas as I don't need him to retrieve live to hand, I don't need a sit and stay. I just need him to run catch and dispatch his quarry. 1 Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 4 hours ago, jcm said: My bull x could of been trained to a higher standard than he is no doubt about that but I'd of just been wasting my time in some areas as I don't need him to retrieve live to hand, I don't need a sit and stay. I just need him to run catch and dispatch his quarry. That's the crux of how it his today young guns and lots a the older generation ,only want and need a real good runner with all the added better bits ,game stamina packed high threshold ta pin with a sprinkling of bid ability ,nought wrong with that if that's yas all yas need .and want. Atb bill Quote Link to post
Boss-Hog 269 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 never truer word said shame too many out their not to except bullxs for their capabilities 1 Quote Link to post
jcm 2,327 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 On 31/10/2018 at 12:46, billhardy said: That's the crux of how it his today young guns and lots a the older generation ,only want and need a real good runner with all the added better bits ,game stamina packed high threshold ta pin with a sprinkling of bid ability ,nought wrong with that if that's yas all yas need .and want. Atb bill My other dog will sit stay mark up etc as I needed him to do all of that. Same with coursing dogs they are bewd for a job and most won't need to have commands put on them as the owner just doesn't need them Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,143 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 On 31/10/2018 at 17:00, Boss-Hog said: never truer word said shame too many out their not to except bullxs for their capabilities Brian plummer was right.Just a load of bloody thugs. 3 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,841 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, downsouth said: Brian plummer was right.Just a load of bloody thugs. Sporting tattoos no doubt Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,143 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Black neck said: Sporting tattoos no doubt Shaved heads and earrings. Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,841 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, downsouth said: Shaved heads and earrings. He hated earrings on men God rest him 1 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,525 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Black neck said: He hated earrings on men God rest him Plummer or the bull x Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,841 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, forest of dean redneck said: Plummer or the bull x Both Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 06/09/2012 at 21:20, milliken said: To tell you the truth ive never really been a fan of this cross as in my mind at a time they where for one job and that was a terrier mans lurcher good round a hole but as a alround lurcher i never rated them another thought that put me of this cross was most the ones i seen where poorly trained pulling there owners round the place none retrivers poor recall and so on you know the types so im my eyes i thought i would never have one about me as they would not suit my needs i like a dog that can be trained to a good standered mostly it would be used for lamping rabbits the odd day time hare and a fox or two if the chance came up so how did i end up with a bull x pup thats what i want to know am i mad looking a challenge or going with the trend ? i was given the pup as i got the lad a service of a friends bull x dog who in my eyes is a great allrounder as good at lamping bunnys as he is anything eles i had all the intentions of given the pup to a suitable lad that was on the look out for such a cross i got the pup at 6 weeks and he is still here now 15 weeks i gess the little fella has grown on me has my view of this cross changed all i can say is yes as for the ability of it learning basic commands its top class and as good as the collie x i had at this age at 15 weeks he sits stands lies down on command with voice or hand signals comes to whistle retrives holds objects on comand and walks to heel he has took it all in his stride he is willing to learn and please so the next stage of his training will be the stay and moveing left and right with hand signalls and the one he has mastered so far only from abit more distance ill keep you up dated on his progress or his set backs and a few pics but the point of this topic is the bullx abilty as a allrounder whats your views on this and the abilty to train them to a hight standered all the best and hope you all have a good season robert Its a sad reflection of lurchers and their ownership now when folk mention a Bullx as an allrounder.Its a reflection of the accepted standards now when a mutt will never have the capacity to do half of what an allrounder was expected to achieve,achieves what allround lurcher owner is willing to accept now. 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,841 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, morton said: Its a sad reflection of lurchers and their ownership now when folk mention a Bullx as an allrounder.Its a reflection of the accepted standards now when a mutt will never have the capacity to do half of what an allrounder was expected to achieve,achieves what allround lurcher owner is willing to accept now. What was the alrounders of old expected to do mate 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Black neck said: What was the alrounders of old expected to do mate 9 minutes ago, Black neck said: What was the alrounders of old expected to do mate 9 minutes ago, Black neck said: What was the alrounders of old expected to do mate Anything in front of it,as long as it was edible or a pest.It had to find it before it chased it,it had to be able to chase it to catch it and it had to do it well.The olde adverts in the exchange and mart where often followed by HJKC,most on here won,t understand that,what i expected was HJFFWBRB. Edited November 4, 2018 by morton Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,525 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, morton said: Anything in front of it,as long as it was edible or a pest.It had to find it before it chased it,it had to be able to chase it to catch it and it had to do it well.The olde adverts in the exchange and mart where often followed by HJKC,most on here won,t understand that,what i expected was HJFFWBRK. Hunt jump kill carry now they are expected to drive the scooby and gut the catch Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,841 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, morton said: Anything in front of it,as long as it was edible or a pest.It had to find it before it chased it,it had to be able to chase it to catch it and it had to do it well.The olde advets in the exchange and mart where often followed by HJKC,most on here won,t understand that,what i expected was HJFFWBRK. Sounds reasonable sir What's the gibberish at the end tho Quote Link to post
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