GWPxLAB

[MOO 730]

GWP X Labs are popular with highland keepers on grouse moors, lots more stamina than the averidge lab

Thats right Jim theres plentyup here and some decent ones that are good on the hill

[Lab 10,979]

Speaking to a keeper yesterday, who keeps and breeds this cross, he says he would never get another labrador. The pointer adds a great quartering ability, and uses airborn scent much better than MOST labs, you also get a toughness that isnt present in the average lab. Ability to track and hold wounded boar or deer is bred into the gwp, and they take to hunting toothed or dangerous game easily .... Now Ive seen some good labs, that would make anyone happy, but sadly not the norm, and you wouldnt expect it in a lab anyway, as they are first and foremost a retriever, not a hunter. Like gets said again and again, it depends on what you need out of a dog. For me, a lab would be a waste of feed, for the next man it could be the dog for the job.

I'm not doubting that this would be a good cross.. ................but why compare it too a normal Lab, why not compare it too a good one. Everything you've mentioned above my big dog can do quite easily. Strong, fit and a workhorse......if its out there he'll find it and if it bites him he aint scared of it.....

[ayrshiretaxidermy 29]

Speaking to a keeper yesterday, who keeps and breeds this cross, he says he would never get another labrador. The pointer adds a great quartering ability, and uses airborn scent much better than MOST labs, you also get a toughness that isnt present in the average lab. Ability to track and hold wounded boar or deer is bred into the gwp, and they take to hunting toothed or dangerous game easily .... Now Ive seen some good labs, that would make anyone happy, but sadly not the norm, and you wouldnt expect it in a lab anyway, as they are first and foremost a retriever, not a hunter. Like gets said again and again, it depends on what you need out of a dog. For me, a lab would be a waste of feed, for the next man it could be the dog for the job.

I'm not doubting that this would be a good cross.. ................but why compare it too a normal Lab, why not compare it too a good one. Everything you've mentioned above my big dog can do quite easily. Strong, fit and a workhorse......if its out there he'll find it and if it bites him he aint scared of it.....

 

Does he point?

[Lab 10,979]

Speaking to a keeper yesterday, who keeps and breeds this cross, he says he would never get another labrador. The pointer adds a great quartering ability, and uses airborn scent much better than MOST labs, you also get a toughness that isnt present in the average lab. Ability to track and hold wounded boar or deer is bred into the gwp, and they take to hunting toothed or dangerous game easily .... Now Ive seen some good labs, that would make anyone happy, but sadly not the norm, and you wouldnt expect it in a lab anyway, as they are first and foremost a retriever, not a hunter. Like gets said again and again, it depends on what you need out of a dog. For me, a lab would be a waste of feed, for the next man it could be the dog for the job.

I'm not doubting that this would be a good cross.. ................but why compare it too a normal Lab, why not compare it too a good one. Everything you've mentioned above my big dog can do quite easily. Strong, fit and a workhorse......if its out there he'll find it and if it bites him he aint scared of it.....

 

Does he point?

A little bit actually................

[ayrshiretaxidermy 29]

Get the video up.

[youngbuck 1]

 

Think this is the breed for me! Does anyone know of any pups for sale in the Yorkshire or surrounding area?

[hunter1995 92]

any pictures of this dog as an adult was looking for a gun dog on grouse moors and this seems to have a lot of good points intrested in one too now

[hedge hunter 107]

Hi guys any body got any info on pointer x springer. It's a cross I think could make a real good rough shooters dog, there's a litter local to me I was thinking about, cheers hh

 

 

 

[gamerooster 1,179]

Speaking to a keeper yesterday, who keeps and breeds this cross, he says he would never get another labrador. The pointer adds a great quartering ability, and uses airborn scent much better than MOST labs, you also get a toughness that isnt present in the average lab. Ability to track and hold wounded boar or deer is bred into the gwp, and they take to hunting toothed or dangerous game easily .... Now Ive seen some good labs, that would make anyone happy, but sadly not the norm, and you wouldnt expect it in a lab anyway, as they are first and foremost a retriever, not a hunter. Like gets said again and again, it depends on what you need out of a dog. For me, a lab would be a waste of feed, for the next man it could be the dog for the job.

I'm not doubting that this would be a good cross.. ................but why compare it too a normal Lab, why not compare it too a good one. Everything you've mentioned above my big dog can do quite easily. Strong, fit and a workhorse......if its out there he'll find it and if it bites him he aint scared of it.....

 

the lurchador?

[PoshPikey 560]

I can't see what this would add to either breed. The GWP can do everything you asking of it and by diluting their blood with lab you are robbing some of the fire from the GWP.

 

Presumably this cross has been put together for people who can't be arsed to train a proper GWP and hope that putting lab in the mix will make it easier.

[Lab 10,979]

Speaking to a keeper yesterday, who keeps and breeds this cross, he says he would never get another labrador. The pointer adds a great quartering ability, and uses airborn scent much better than MOST labs, you also get a toughness that isnt present in the average lab. Ability to track and hold wounded boar or deer is bred into the gwp, and they take to hunting toothed or dangerous game easily .... Now Ive seen some good labs, that would make anyone happy, but sadly not the norm, and you wouldnt expect it in a lab anyway, as they are first and foremost a retriever, not a hunter. Like gets said again and again, it depends on what you need out of a dog. For me, a lab would be a waste of feed, for the next man it could be the dog for the job.

I'm not doubting that this would be a good cross.. ................but why compare it too a normal Lab, why not compare it too a good one. Everything you've mentioned above my big dog can do quite easily. Strong, fit and a workhorse......if its out there he'll find it and if it bites him he aint scared of it.....

 

the lurchador?

Thats his nickname mate............

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

I dont doubt you have qulity stock, theres bound to be the odd nutter out there mad enough to put the time in to polish the giant turds up .... but out of the tons of labs Ive seen in the field, not many at all were dogs that would suit me. Seen loads that were cracking peg dogs, marking long retrieves, and steady during drives etc... but not all-rounders, its usually the hunting aspect that lets them down (for me), the way they work the land is not as good as a good spaniel or HPR. However the cross bred labs that Ive seen, GWP/lab as well as spaniel/lab have been all-out grafters.

As a specialist retriever, peg dog, picking up they can be excellent and take some beating. But this isnt my line of work 9 days out of 10.

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

I can't see what this would add to either breed. The GWP can do everything you asking of it and by diluting their blood with lab you are robbing some of the fire from the GWP.

 

Presumably this cross has been put together for people who can't be arsed to train a proper GWP and hope that putting lab in the mix will make it easier.

No mate, they usually work similar to the pointer, but a good deal steadier, and being much more inclined to work in close range of the handler, and if your not experienced in the beating line then this is what you want.

It seems a shame to have to curb the natural tendancies of the HPRs by limiting their range so drastically, they like to work the wind as well as ground scent, and quarter wide. If rough shooting or grouse counting this is just the ticket. Horses for courses as they say.