poacher3161 1,766 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Sound like do as you likeys with the names mentioned thats been charged with burglry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Common sense prevails this time! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) You can only hope it makes other thieving scum think twice. They are used to community service and suspended sentences, now they have this as a third possibility. Edited September 6, 2012 by walshie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Exactly jai. It's all very well saying we should have guns in the house fkr shooting intruders, but then we get a domestic argument turning into a shooting. You embrace a gun culture, then you must be able to accept the death count piling up. Well that's certainly not a society I wish to live in. Its piling up anyway.....i'd rather have the law on my side to defend myself rather than not. Its fate what happens too you anyway............. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 @lanesra why has it got nothing to do with what we are talking about? The thread is about burglars, and what force you deem right to stop them. You brought up America mate. That was just a sample of what can go wrong. And let's face it here there a fuckibg lot wrong with America. It just bewilders me when people want to adopt stuff like that from the states, where it clearly does not work! There murder rate with guns is horrendous. There f*****g kids are having a bad day and go shoot up thier schoolmates. Me personally I think that the break on rate would go up, no marks looking to rob guns. No good ever comes from arming a nation. One more point and I'll say no more. These cases are very few and far between, certainly no where bear the f*****g stage of running out and arming yourself to the teeth. I've always agreed with the uks gun laws, of there not there they can't harm innocent people. Yes it dies happen on the odd occasion, but it would happen a lot more if everyone was cutting about with shooters. @ lab no mate, there no big pile of dead bodies through getting your house tanned lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 @lanesra why has it got nothing to do with what we are talking about? The thread is about burglars, and what force you deem right to stop them. You brought up America mate. That was just a sample of what can go wrong. And let's face it here there a fuckibg lot wrong with America. It just bewilders me when people want to adopt stuff like that from the states, where it clearly does not work! There murder rate with guns is horrendous. There f*****g kids are having a bad day and go shoot up thier schoolmates. Me personally I think that the break on rate would go up, no marks looking to rob guns. No good ever comes from arming a nation. One more point and I'll say no more. These cases are very few and far between, certainly no where bear the f*****g stage of running out and arming yourself to the teeth. I've always agreed with the uks gun laws, of there not there they can't harm innocent people. Yes it dies happen on the odd occasion, but it would happen a lot more if everyone was cutting about with shooters. @ lab no mate, there no big pile of dead bodies through getting your house tanned lol Right the thread is about Burglars so why you mentioning kids going to school with guns where talking about people defending there property and yes i brought up America and an Incident where an innocent man wasnt prosecuted when killing some scum bag robbing him and attempting to shoot him ....thats relevant with this thread , Your going on about Gun Laws and I AGREE WITH THE UK GUN LAWS , I didnt mention American Gun Laws as i think there crazy.... though criminials get guns when wanted so gun laws irrelevant to them , my post was sayin where people defending themselves and there property are concerned America Has in my opinion a better attitude than here where the Victim is treated like that not the other way round as we have seen here over the yrs and still are today so would you disagree/agree with what i was initially on about ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,052 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Guns or not, I don't think the gun laws should be changed but there should be an absolute right to defend your home and family with deadly force......it wouldn't do any harm for these scummers breaking in to think that there is a good chance they may not walk out. Edited September 6, 2012 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 what happened to an english mans home is his castle castles were built for one purpose, to repel invaders 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 I wouldn't be happy if anyone could get a gun but i think that the laws need changing regarding defending your home. In the even when you wake up and hear someone moving around down stairs it is asking too much of people to evaluate the threat and acting accordingly. How is the average person going to know how dangerous an intruder is or find out what weapons they have. If it was me i would never move down stairs in to a situation where i might get attacked. Instead i would be at the top of the stairs and shout a warning. If they came up you can bet they mean u harm and anything goes. Charging downstairs with or without a weapon is likely to end up with you getting hurt or killed. In the case of this couple some fu*ker actually entered their bedroom...i think they did the right thing. So in short gun laws need refining and simplifying but we still need them and We should be able to defend our homes without havibg to access our saftey.. We should assume the oposite that anyone entering your home is willing to do you harm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 If I hear someone breaking into my home, even if all they want is a ham sandwich out the fridge, I SHOULD have every right to grab a baseball bat and go downstairs and deal with them. If they so much as swear at me aggresively I SHOULD have the right to dissable them or kill them if necessary. There should be no risk of prosecution for the victim in a burglary who SHOULD feel safe taking the most deadly weapon he has to hand and engaging a burgler. Be that a hammer, knife, bat or shotgun. All that is fine, it's just the actual engageing the intruder with a deadly weapon part the law doesn't like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 If I hear someone breaking into my home, even if all they want is a ham sandwich out the fridge, I SHOULD have every right to grab a baseball bat and go downstairs and deal with them. If they so much as swear at me aggresively I SHOULD have the right to dissable them or kill them if necessary. There should be no risk of prosecution for the victim in a burglary who SHOULD feel safe taking the most deadly weapon he has to hand and engaging a burgler. Be that a hammer, knife, bat or shotgun. All that is fine, it's just the actual engageing the intruder with a deadly weapon part the law doesn't like. I can't even believe there is a debate going on. If there is someone in your house you should be able to do what you like to protect yourself and your property. You only have to watch Crimewatch to see the horrific things these c**ts do to get money out of people. Chances are if someone broke into my house I wouldn't hear them..... If I did the first place I would be going is the gun cabinet and there leg/ foot would be off. I'd think about prison the next day.... At that point in time is be thinking about my safety. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Just for the record in case I'm misunderstood. I have no prob with anyone knocking seven shades of shit out of someone for tanning you'r house. I would do exactly the same, if they did manage to get in, which I very much doubt! However talking of cracking open the guns and shooting folk dead. Well thsys your call, but personally I think most of you talking nonsense. Sorry Lads just my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Oh and god forbid this actually does happen, and you do shoot someone. Maybe best you delete you'r comments about shooting burglars , You'r posts certainly woukdnt help you'r case! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,922 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Wouldn't it be intent now as they've already planned to shoot someone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 How can it be intent when it's a burglary? I've know idea it will ever happen. And Scot mate you don't need to believe me but I'm telling you the gun would come out if I had time to do so.....and I'd only shoot them if I felt in danger. I think a shotgun pointed at you from 10 feet would be enough for you to "get tae f**k" pretty sharpish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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