dee mac 579 Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 i use locators but still find myself listening down the T bar, old habbits and all that. same as that ali especially when starting young dogs as i lkie to know there up tight and personal before digging to them plus accidents do happen kit can fail collars can be forgotten to be switched on etc so we usually have a few digs a year where its ear to ground and t bar . Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 We always take the bar with us as i think its better to be looking at it than looking for it even if we never use it 2 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I have dug for many years without locater systems as they were not about when i started with terriers but back nthen you had to choose your earths to dig as a deepish earth was a no go because unless you had a bolt you would be there for the day trying to locate your dog and if the dog was anyway hard he could take a lot of punishment in the time it would take to get to him,also many the good terrier was lost in the process.With the invention of locaters we can now drop a terrier in literly any earth as they can be located quickly and with help be dug to but i still never lost the habit of bringing the t bar along,lol. 2 Quote Link to post
MOO 730 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 ive had to dig with no collers on a good few times, tab to ground with your jacket over your head to block the wind out easy when you know how EASY?????????? Even with a collar its not always easy 1 Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I have heard of some big dig's over the year's and some being 15ft+ ...how would the old school no locator kind of guy locate such a deep terrier..surely you would not be able to hear a peep out of the terrier that deep.. Quote Link to post
coverdogs 888 Posted September 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I have heard of some big dig's over the year's and some being 15ft+ ...how would the old school no locator kind of guy locate such a deep terrier..surely you would not be able to hear a peep out of the terrier that deep.. i remember one dig very well we were on a farm one saturday afternoon about 4 o clock in september we were using my friends lakeland a show dog that dident make the grade but the best lakeland i have seen on a fox we came to a set with a good sent of fox the dog was mad to get off we had a look around and decided to let the dog in after about 30 seconds he started to work but about 25 feet out we could just hear him at the mouth of the hole witch was down a bank about 4 or 5 foot but we couldent hear a thing out in the field we bared and sounded and then tried to call the dog out but no joy we left at 8 :30 or so because it was pitch black and my friend left his coat at the mouth of the hole witch we had done before and the dog was lying on it the next day. we came back the next morning there was no sign of the dog and we couldent hear him i though he had left but my friend assured me he would be still there we took a guess where he would be going from the direction of his bark the day before and started to dig . 2ft of top soil 3ft or so of blue clay and then hard grevel stone you name it it was there 12 foot later and still no sound i was standing having a rest when i heard a very faint sound to my right side about 3 ft from the bottom i started to bar in and found the dog when i dug in to him he was stuck he had killed a fox and and pushed past it and killed another and he couldent get back .another hour or two and he would have been dead we had to carry him back to the car.i never went back to that until about 10 years ago my son was going down one day and asked me if i wanted to go and i said no and you are mad if you go he said they couldent be that bad.there were 4 of them 16 ft locator collar and all they got a nice 6 hour dig to them selves in the pouring rain, f--k i laughed.atb coverdogs 6 Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I have heard of some big dig's over the year's and some being 15ft+ ...how would the old school no locator kind of guy locate such a deep terrier..surely you would not be able to hear a peep out of the terrier that deep.. i remember one dig very well we were on a farm one saturday afternoon about 4 o clock in september we were using my friends lakeland a show dog that dident make the grade but the best lakeland i have seen on a fox we came to a set with a good sent of fox the dog was mad to get off we had a look around and decided to let the dog in after about 30 seconds he started to work but about 25 feet out we could just hear him at the mouth of the hole witch was down a bank about 4 or 5 foot but we couldent hear a thing out in the field we bared and sounded and then tried to call the dog out but no joy we left at 8 :30 or so because it was pitch black and my friend left his coat at the mouth of the hole witch we had done before and the dog was lying on it the next day. we came back the next morning there was no sign of the dog and we couldent hear him i though he had left but my friend assured me he would be still there we took a guess where he would be going from the direction of his bark the day before and started to dig . 2ft of top soil 3ft or so of blue clay and then hard grevel stone you name it it was there 12 foot later and still no sound i was standing having a rest when i heard a very faint sound to my right side about 3 ft from the bottom i started to bar in and found the dog when i dug in to him he was stuck he had killed a fox and and pushed past it and killed another and he couldent get back .another hour or two and he would have been dead we had to carry him back to the car.i never went back to that until about 10 years ago my son was going down one day and asked me if i wanted to go and i said no and you are mad if you go he said they couldent be that bad.there were 4 of them 16 ft locator collar and all they got a nice 6 hour dig to them selves in the pouring rain, f--k i laughed.atb coverdogs You were lucky,I have been that soldier. Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 trentching carnt say as i miss it god bless the cleaver fooker that invented the avalanch human rescue detector 1 Quote Link to post
Waz 4,266 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I have heard of some big dig's over the year's and some being 15ft+ ...how would the old school no locator kind of guy locate such a deep terrier..surely you would not be able to hear a peep out of the terrier that deep.. Surely.. 2 Quote Link to post
Mosby 355 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Nice to see those guys pose in a mine shaft and say they're terrier men . Ha ha Really though, what a dig. Very impressive. Quote Link to post
Hickory 54 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 I've done a 15 footer. Would not have wanted to be starting that one without knowing where the dog was. We got both raccoons. Quote Link to post
wilbur foxhound 480 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 that thing Danny had was the tool for the job, but at £85 to rent one from waterboard why dont ya make one,atb wf Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Looked into it, 5mm stainless tube ,4 and half foot long.its not cheap.even through work.I'm a turner and machinist Quote Link to post
lurcherandterriemanchris 14 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 as a starter to the sport the deepest ive done is about 6 foot but before i turn my box on i have a good listen around and then turn my box on and home in on it but i was talking to my old man about this and he said for years they never had a locator and they said they got on fine with using a bar but i could never leave my house with out a locator but i was just speaking too a man from up yorkshire he repairs the old deben boxs ive just sent mine up to him but he said hes got all the parts to start making a the old deben boxes again but hes gonna make them to go to 20 foot soo when i get one ill report and tell you how it was Quote Link to post
whitehackle 4 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 barr and stroud sierra 8x42. Very good for the money. Quote Link to post
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