First season failures?

[Hickory 54]

First season failure: Won't enter and stay where there's game that they can find and get to. It happens and there's no shame in it unless you won't admit what you see with your own eyes.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

 

She started well but decided she didn't want to know in the end, She's now someones pet.

 

Sometimes for some of us failures will pass through our kennels, it's just how it goes I suppose.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

Good thread this, a question I would like to ask is how many lads are keen on letting young dogs run empty earths before they start proper work? I'm not keen on it and usually like to let them go when they're marking an occupied earth, but I've got mates that are keen on letting their young 'uns running endless empty earths and drains? What's your opinions?

[fredthefrog 169]

Last season I had a bit of bad luck and I went from having three dogs to zero before the season had even finished. This leaves me with two first season dogs for this year. I know there's a lot of lads that have got a lot of high hopes" as we all have "for their first season dogs. Now if these two fail that's five dogs in two seasons that I'll have gone through! This got me thinking what do you class as failing in a first season dog? Do you tolerate certain things and put them down to inexperience ?

if you go through 5 dogs and they all fail your either doing something terribly wrong or breeding or buying from the wrong stock pal....all the best with the other 2 your gunner need it feller.....

[marshman 7,757]

@ Fredthefrog. Of the three dogs I lost one was three year old and had to pts . The other two were gifted to me they were half brother sister. And both never made it in the job . But the man that bred them has the brother and he's grafting. Not all pups in a litter turn out to be workers and the man that bred them was happy that they got the chance to be tried at what they were bred for. Theres no shame in having a pup that doesn't work! There's not many that have litters that can garrantee they'll all turn out to be

workers!!

[long dogs 580]

Good thread this, a question I would like to ask is how many lads are keen on letting young dogs run empty earths before they start proper work? I'm not keen on it and usually like to let them go when they're marking an occupied earth, but I've got mates that are keen on letting their young 'uns running endless empty earths and drains? What's your opinions?

its all learning for them mate,how would you no there empty unless you used a older experianced dog 1st,i let mine go through them if they want to

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

What I mean for example is they will let an older terrier mark or even run an earth and deem it empty then encourage their young pup to run through it knowing that it is empty.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Rabbit Hunter

[long dogs 580]

id not encourage them then, could confuse the young one then

[downsouth 7,143]

Good thread this, a question I would like to ask is how many lads are keen on letting young dogs run empty earths before they start proper work? I'm not keen on it and usually like to let them go when they're marking an occupied earth, but I've got mates that are keen on letting their young 'uns running endless empty earths and drains? What's your opinions?

Good thread this, a question I would like to ask is how many lads are keen on letting young dogs run empty earths before they start proper work? I'm not keen on it and usually like to let them go when they're marking an occupied earth, but I've got mates that are keen on letting their young 'uns running endless empty earths and drains? What's your opinions?

Dont think it does them any good at all mate,especially encouraging young dogs into empty earths,I think all it does is encourage dogs to waste time f**king about in every earth you come to which can cause an empty earth to not hold for even longer,Ialso believe it can also lead to false marking.Any dogs that ive had over the years that have been any good have normally marked earths a good while before ive actually been happy to let them enter.

[dee mac 579]

even tho young they ll have a nose in there head and its usually the fresh scent that entices them in yes young dogs will travel empty earths out of pure curiousity at start but i ve found they usually learn quite quick once they ve met up for the first time with there quarry when the time is right .i ve seen dogs that were used with hounds that the only time they got into an earth was when hounds had run one to ground and so everytime there after they knew when they got out of box there was a fox there then on down the line when asked to check earths without hounds theyd run round the earth all fcuking day trying to make a fox as thats what they were used to so young dogs need to learn that not every earth holds early on and soon they ll give youn a mark when occupied and a sniff and walk on when nothing home imo ps id never encourage a young dog to travel an earth thats empty if it wants then let them go but never encourage them as that can lead to a smiular prob as i mentioned above

[dee mac 579]

What I mean for example is they will let an older terrier mark or even run an earth and deem it empty then encourage their young pup to run through it knowing that it is empty.

asking for trouble there blue i do think

[runsatnite 7]

3 fair strikes and they are out with time between

[bd hunter 25]

Every terrier man has a failure no matter how good they are bred some spot it n a terrier quicker than others better to cut ur loses and start again u can't make them work if its not in them its not in them you could be trying them for ever