Moll. 1,770 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Rather than asking whether to enter your dog to reds or not don't you have a responsibility as a fellow dogman to ask if the reds are causing a problem or not? too many people are running about the countryside killing stuff for no real reason and it's not just lurchers there's plenty of idiots with rifles who "pop out to see what they can get" Deer, Fox, Hare whatever I'll never get my head around it. I'm not knocking Keepers or Pest Controllers or even somebody putting a bit of meat in the freezer these in my eyes are genuine reasons to be doing what we do but if you don't know whether or not to enter your dog I'm guessing the red isn't causing anybody a problem so leave it be. 1 Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Personally i can see this forum closing down for good in the not to distant future. The type of people joining/posting are just a reflection of the way society is as a whole. People are now selfish instead of selfless in all aspects of life, why would a forum where people can say/do what they want be any different. 5 Link to post
MOO 730 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 very good post Leveller .... Link to post
NEWKID 27,159 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Personally i can see this forum closing down for good in the not to distant future. The type of people joining/posting are just a reflection of the way society is as a whole. People are now selfish instead of selfless in all aspects of life, why would a forum where people can say/do what they want be any different. That's it Moll, it's not the site it's society as a whole there is less respect now, for each other, and when you've got a small minority of these muppets running around the countryside running and killing whatever they see all year round and then posting on here it tars us all with the same brush...... There's always been idiots about mind, it's just years ago they never had an open forum to go boasting on....... It doesn't seem to sink in putting pre ban or hiding the quarry behind a really clever nick name lol, doesn't fool anyone....... 1 Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Any member's posting subject's of: Poaching or Coursing Hare, Deer, Fox. Will be removed and banned unless your IP is outside the UK ?? HOW ABOUT THE USE OF TWO DOGS FLUSHING TO WAITING GUNS Edited August 29, 2012 by gonetoearth Link to post
chartpolski 23,612 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Double post Cheers. Edited August 29, 2012 by chartpolski Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 aye the whins not here now because his ip address is banned which a large percentage of folk may think is a good thing but personaly I think its a shame, yes he used to wind folk up something terrible myself included but every now and then he came out with knowledge/ experiences etc in a way that only he could and to my mind was genius, ( grammer aside lol ) the manner in which he shared his views were for the most part straight to the point and he spoke his mind, folk are always going to disagree with other folks opinions but the clue is in the word DISCUSSION, at least the whin had the balls to say what was on his mind and as far as I,m aware he never broke any rules regaurding the subject whether deer hare or otherwise, so I say bring back the whin mods, the sites not the same without him JUDGE " the charge against you is posting pics of a illegal nature, how do you plead ? " WHIN " not guilty " VERDICT " unproven, insufficiant evidence " FTB 1 Link to post
chartpolski 23,612 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I must be old school, or maybe I'm missing something, but, I can't quite understand the need to post photos of a dog or dogs killing a fox or ragging the carcase whether it was preban or taking place somewhere still legally acceptable. Do folk actually find there pictures interesting, if so I would question their own hunting experiences or maybe it's just small cock syndrome on the part of the poster. I disagree with your post ! I previously put a post up about a hunting trip to Australia, and there were pleanty pics of dogs and foxes, and descriptions of the hunts. It was very well recieved by a lot of very experienced hunting men and women, judging by the replies and feedback. It would be a very dull site if the only posts were of the "Hows it bred, mate", "Nice pup,Mate" type !! Oh; and by the way. I'm Definately old school !! LOL !! Cheers. 5 Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I must be old school, or maybe I'm missing something, but, I can't quite understand the need to post photos of a dog or dogs killing a fox or ragging the carcase whether it was preban or taking place somewhere still legally acceptable. Do folk actually find there pictures interesting, if so I would question their own hunting experiences or maybe it's just small cock syndrome on the part of the poster. I disagree with your post ! I previously put a post up about a hunting trip to Australia, and there were pleanty pics of dogs and foxes, and descriptions of the hunts. It was very well recieved by a lot of very experienced hunting men and women, judging by the replies and feedback. It would be a very dull site if the only posts were of the "Hows it bred, mate", "Nice pup,Mate" type !! Oh; and by the way. I'm Definately old school !! LOL !! Cheers. show us your bullx 2 Link to post
Guest Leveller Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Thanks MOO and Moll I was beginning to think I wasn't among like minded folk for a minute or two. In this day and age whatever your chosen past time you have a duty and a responsibility to be seen to be doing it properly. Some people are honestly their own worst enemies on the forums all it takes is a little decorum. Some members on here are so far removed from the countryside/wildlife/agriculture even basic canine knowledge that in my opinion they haven't earned the right to hunt/control pests etc etc. We all differ on opinions and methods that's what gives this site a reason for being here to discuss and share our thoughts with each other, unfortunately the more I read on here the further away I feel from many of the members, not all there are some good folk around and I've met plenty form the sites. The bottom line is just ask yourself if what you're posting isn't constructive and showing us in a positive light then why would you want to post it? it's just anti fodder and more nails in the coffin of rural ways. 7 Link to post
alimac 882 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Close the site down for a while, that will make the silly buggers think twice, showing no respect for mods or admin i dont think this would achieve anything, i also dont believe that people are disrespecting mods or admins, just trying to help make the site a better place, atb Ian started THL for all to enjoy. and has clearly stated the rules, time and time again, yet some folks clearly flout those rules, they wouldnt be allowed to get away with it on other dog forums, once banned, thats it, your banned, to lenient on this site, some of the stuff posted asking for trouble, wait and see No respect shown to admin and mods but other site are invite only and thats the way they want it start there own !!! ian wants a open site as you said and thats what it is open anyone can get on here without joining up , it for all to enjoy , No respect shown to admin and mods does not bother me what does is THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THERE SPORT !!!! ATB SOUNDER Well the way I see it is, yes it's Ian's site so its run as Ian sees fit.. But on the flip side in my opinion having such a big site with so many let's say il educated members with regards there postings, because its a open site, having it "open for all to enjoy" isn't doing our sport any favours at all!!.. It's just giving endless ammunition to the enemy In a war that's going to be hard enough to win without shite getting splattered about a open forum for them to use against us.. This never seams to be mentioned by mods or admin, do you/they think that having a open forum is really worth it?? What advantages does it bring against the above which I think is a HUGE disadvantage to our sport.. Edited to add.. Please don't say it's informative to new starters because 90% of what's posted is probably factually in correct by the il educated amongst us.. Edited August 29, 2012 by alimac Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Thanks MOO and Moll I was beginning to think I wasn't among like minded folk for a minute or two. In this day and age whatever your chosen past time you have a duty and a responsibility to be seen to be doing it properly. Some people are honestly their own worst enemies on the forums all it takes is a little decorum. Some members on here are so far removed from the countryside/wildlife/agriculture even basic canine knowledge that in my opinion they haven't earned the right to hunt/control pests etc etc. We all differ on opinions and methods that's what gives this site a reason for being here to discuss and share our thoughts with each other, unfortunately the more I read on here the further away I feel from many of the members, not all there are some good folk around and I've met plenty form the sites. The bottom line is just ask yourself if what you're posting isn't constructive and showing us in a positive light then why would you want to post it? it's just anti fodder and more nails in the coffin of rural ways. try looking in the air rifle section if you think the lurcher section is bad. i had a disscusion the other month after someone put a vid of a hare being shot, now i have no problems with anything being killed as long as its killed for good reason and the fact someone does it because they can, to me is not good reason, nice to know a few others think like me 1 Link to post
nastybilly 55 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 the young guns always want to show off with pictures videos of what there dogs have done, thats always gona happen on a site that was intended to discus lurchers, hopefully the ones with more brains than brawn will learn from a thread like this, after the ban the real dogmen stopped posting about what they were doing and some even stopped doing it, its not easy for the hard of thinking to get to grips with not being able to post pics of what they do but its up to the modys to pull them aside and have a word and i know its not easy with all the posts that come up on this site but arguing about the rites and wrongs of doing it when its known its been banned will only draw attention from the wrong ppl and give them more ammo to drive there wedge deeper to try and ban other legal hunting persuites ..as far hunting in other countrys go thats all fair and well but dont forget the anties in them countrys are trying to get it banned there to so even posting pics of hunting there to me isnt very adventageous for them ..anyone that knows me will know i was no angel but any pics i did post was when it was legal and i feel sorry for the new young guns that got into it after the ban and want to tell tales of how amazing there dogs are.lol..but i think the more seasoned hunters on here should have a bit more sence ..and thats not amed at anyone in particular ..lol..just in general ....good hunting Link to post
NEWKID 27,159 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I must be old school, or maybe I'm missing something, but, I can't quite understand the need to post photos of a dog or dogs killing a fox or ragging the carcase whether it was preban or taking place somewhere still legally acceptable. Do folk actually find there pictures interesting, if so I would question their own hunting experiences or maybe it's just small cock syndrome on the part of the poster. I disagree with your post ! I previously put a post up about a hunting trip to Australia, and there were pleanty pics of dogs and foxes, and descriptions of the hunts. It was very well recieved by a lot of very experienced hunting men and women, judging by the replies and feedback. It would be a very dull site if the only posts were of the "Hows it bred, mate", "Nice pup,Mate" type !! Oh; and by the way. I'm Definately old school !! LOL !! Cheers. Your pics were obviously from Australia mate the same as some of the pics on the minshaw thread with hare, deer etc are obviously very much pre ban ( no one wears clothes or has those hairstyles any more lol), surely the problem is the pics of a dog ragging a fox etc obviously taken the night before and the posted with pre ban beside it.... I think most of us ate interested in what happens legaly abroad, the American lurchers thread being a good one now, and we all like to see old pics and tales..... It's the few threads where it's obvious the law is being broken with photos to prove it that are mindless..... If you had robbed a bank the night before would you go on the Internet and boast about it the next day..... 1 Link to post
chartpolski 23,612 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 So is the general consensus that there should be no more pics or stories of hunting, even where and when it's legal ??? I'm sure gonna miss the posts by the Yanks and Ozzies and lads that hunt overseas, if that is the case !! Cheers. Link to post
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