jarv5116 57 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Surley its going be no different from stock breaking to sheep, cows, horse or anything else, if its not the inteded quary preban If you run deer pre ban, or run with other lads dogs on deer preban. Then I think you would need a very discplined dog to call off its intead quarry mid chase. I think even working a dog from your side with no slip is different from stopping a dog mid chase. The dog it your side is under control. were dog chasing should be giving 100%. Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 There's a great diffence in starting from scratch, but with a dog whos wed to them it's very hard to do! You can break a dog to anything as a youngster it's no big deal, but how many lurcher folk really have the inclination, experience or patience to do this? A point and slip dog is easy to have, a dog that's trained takes time ;-) I know which I would want to walk out with. 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 There's a great diffence in starting from scratch, but with a dog whos wed to them it's very hard to do! You can break a dog to anything as a youngster it's no big deal, but how many lurcher folk really have the inclination, experience or patience to do this? A point and slip dog is easy to have, a dog that's trained takes time ;-) I know which I would want to walk out with. So if you can't call it off quarry, it's just an untrained, point and slip dog? Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,507 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 While I admire anyone who can train a dog to a high degree, I allways have a niggling little worry about a dog that can be called off it's quarry in mid-flight ! Of course, Levs didn't claim he could call his dog off mid-course, he has it trained to NOT run certain species, which is his choice. There's a massive difference between training a dog to ignore certain quarry, and a dog with no "heart", usualy known as a "jacker" !! I certainly couldn't call my dogs off anything, mid-course; so if anyone wants to call them "point and slip" dogs, they're welcome, but they do the job for me ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 While I admire anyone who can train a dog to a high degree, I allways have a niggling little worry about a dog that can be called off it's quarry in mid-flight ! Of course, Levs didn't claim he could call his dog off mid-course, he has it trained to NOT run certain species, which is his choice. There's a massive difference between training a dog to ignore certain quarry, and a dog with no "heart", usualy known as a "jacker" !! I certainly couldn't call my dogs off anything, mid-course; so if anyone wants to call them "point and slip" dogs, they're welcome, but they do the job for me ! Cheers. Yep, it's just stock breaking, which is a basic. You could probably break it to rabbits if you tried. Impressive in some senses, but not a must for a lot of folk, and that doesnt makes their dogs untrained or them bad trainers! 2 Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 There's a great diffence in starting from scratch, but with a dog whos wed to them it's very hard to do! You can break a dog to anything as a youngster it's no big deal, but how many lurcher folk really have the inclination, experience or patience to do this? A point and slip dog is easy to have, a dog that's trained takes time ;-) I know which I would want to walk out with. So if you can't call it off quarry, it's just an untrained, point and slip dog? No not at all. Quote Link to post
Guest Leveller Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Daytime...................... 1 Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 top class leveller Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Daytime...................... Shes about to take that line, singing like a hound 1 Quote Link to post
Guest Leveller Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Quite likely, doesn't matter that's heel anyway Quote Link to post
byron 1,169 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Looks like a lack of prey drive to me! had a earth dog that could be called out,,and i can asure people she was not lacking in the prey drive department.. Quote Link to post
Slipthebitch 9 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I think its more training than anything and abit of loyalty i suppose Quote Link to post
storm323 191 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 It's like posting a pic up of a dog by a sheep lol Quote Link to post
freelance 448 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Daytime...................... Cracking pics leveller Cheers Atb Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 It's like posting a pic up of a dog by a sheep lol no its not Quote Link to post
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