Zeroing

[Karl Daw 14]

Guys just a quick one probably a STUPID question ,if i zeroed my pro sport toabout 28 paces and then it was bang on,then i was out in the field and shot a rabbit at about 35 paces and missed but when i raised the rifle to the first mil dot down from the middle then it hit smack on whats going on there,does that ,mean the pellet still rising from 28 to 35 paces?

 

 

Mind still got 5 rabbits tonight i love the pro sport makes me weeep

[chez 23]

think it may be dropping mate get a few targets out at difarent distances an practice.

[chez 23]

think it may be dropping mate get a few targets out at difarent distances an practice.

i could be wrong though mate so dont take my word for it. any other advice would be good. what i do is set targets out at 10. 20.30 and 40 yard then work out ur pellet drop. its hard [bANNED TEXT] ur out in the field judging distance i think without a range finder.

[Lewis Ste 245]

If you are zeroed at 30 with a .22 then shot a rabbit at 35 you would probably need a mil dot holdover but if you were to shoot at 20yards you might need some hold under best way to find out is on paper. Stick some targets out at different ranges and work out what ranges need what hold over

 

but remember if you zero with x10 2 mil dots will mean only 1 on x5

 

On my hawke scope it was zeroed at 30 then every 5 yards was a mil dot on x10

 

Or an easier way is buy a hawke scope get an iPhone download the chair gun app find your retical find out the power of the rifle with your pellet and put the pellet weight in and it should tell you somewhere close but still do abit of range time to make sure

[Marksman 934]

the sensible thing to do would be to stop shooting at live stuff till you can rangefind and knowingly hit the target using whatever means...... Paces isnt an exact measurement, try getting a tape measure mate

 

Mark out targets or even blank pieces of paper with a dot on it every 5 yds from 20 out to 40-45, aim at the dot with the crosshairs then count how many dots to the point of impact, this is how many you will need to aim above the target to hit it at that given distance..

 

But please take my advice and stop shooting at live stuff till you've practiced it....

 

Darryl

[ghillies 209]

sounds like a case for chairgun.. http://www.hawkeopti...airgun-pro.html (if you want to know dowload it..take your time let it sink in).

 

the barrel of your gun points slightly up wards so shoots in an up ward direction to meet with the height of your cross hair and then it falls because of gravity.

 

on its way from the barrel it goes upwards (so lands under the cross hair at that distance,as in less than the peverbial 12) to about 12 yards where your cross hairs are on, it the then rises about a mill dot above the cross hair (so at that distance more than the 12 the pellet lands above the cross hair).

it then meets at your zero range as bang on the cross hair and continues to drop below the cross, the further away from your zero range your shooting the lower it lands below the cross hair. (where all this happens depends on where you put the cross hair zero.)

 

yes theres two distances on the cross hair, use the furthest to zero because one click at 12 yards isnt notacable to the poi.. where as one click at 50 yards is way bigger, trust me on that one.(use the tape measure now and save yourself a load of time).

between the two distances that fall on the cross hair is the 'zenith', thats the highest point of the tragectory 'arc'. you'd aim low with the cross hair for that one. its about half way in the middle..ish.

 

before the perverbial 12 yard you'd aim hi.(then on the cross hair at 12 or what it was for your particular set up).

 

between the first and second zero distance you aim low.

 

after the second or 'primary' zero you aim hi with the cross hairs..(i say 'primary' because its the one you use to zero).

 

marksman has hit the nail on the head..i learnd buy plinking endlesly without knowing didly squot, it takes a long time to suss it but you do get good, i then picked up all the jargon (about 10-12 year later) and i will say..wish i knew it all first lol, its way better knowing, a lot quicker too, so the 10-12 learing curve would have been 2-3 years learning and near on ten to get even better at it. Its a booster basically...

 

you'll wing a shit load whilste you learn the old fashoned way. or...nail the lot the learned way .

 

edited in, as you get older your eyes change, if you know yardage/meterage already its a doddle to adjust, like a few hours to days your back on hot, where as the old way of its there..well could be weeks to months till your eyes settle, then they change again so more weeks to months. it also makes it easier when you change gun power and pellet..and barrel..and gun etc etc etc the list goes on lol. scope..fac...even lighting changes things a bit, thats about the only time the old way comes in to its own, 'its there' is always there because you shoot the same places, and adjust quickly to diferent teirains.. a yard is a yard as they say lol.

 

you use both methods what ever you do, only, one way you know its names and its easy, the other your on your own sussing every moment as you go, its fun when your young, and a complete shit when your older, because learning isnt as easy as you get past 25/30 years old.. using it the measured way your guessing becomes very accurate indeed, because you know exactly, and not a preverbial maybe about there some where lol.

 

( a simple hint on pacing, injuries strains n pains aside..change your shoes and that pace changes, its only a little bit like, but..times it by thirty and your missing already!).

Edited August 25, 2012 by ghillies

[Phantom 631]

It's not a stupid question

 

Chairgun will give you a very good idea of what is going on If you put in the M.E. of the gun, the pellet and the range it's trajectory map will be very accurate indeed It's a great program with loads of tools to help teach you airgun trajectories/ballistics. Even has tools to help you visualise where to aim on varying quarry and targets

 

But..........

 

To find out precicely whats going on, do the Calibration as mentioned above and STOP SHOOTING AT LIVE QUARRY until you know your ranges and where to aim to put them down as often as possible with as little suffering as possible

 

 

Tony

[AR177 588]

Guys just a quick one probably a STUPID question ,if i zeroed my pro sport toabout 28 paces and then it was bang on,then i was out in the field and shot a rabbit at about 35 paces and missed but when i raised the rifle to the first mil dot down from the middle then it hit smack on whats going on there,does that ,mean the pellet still rising from 28 to 35 paces?

 

 

Mind still got 5 rabbits tonight i love the pro sport makes me weeep

 

Sounds like there is nothing wrong?

 

The further distance the more holdover is required - unless im reading the post wrong

 

The pellet dosnt come out of the barrel in a straight line, it loops, rising until it reaches its peak and then begins to fall, its called parabolic trajectory

 

At different ranges you will be at different parts of the trajectory, so will impact at different points on the scope.

 

ATB

 

Adam