Springers.

[thursodog 353]

Lightbulb moment for me this morning.

Been trying hard to save for a couple of multi shot pcps for my 2 boys, idiot!

Its simple, i'm doing it all wrong.

I've spent the last 30 years playing with springers and the last 2 years (night and day) learning how to shoot them to a reasonable standard along with some tuning knowledge.

I now shoot rims and centrefires with a fair degree of confidence all because i can shoot my HW80.

I am now going to see how much they want to shoot properly by handing over 2 springers to them and sharing the next however long it takes punching paper untill the've got what it takes to kill the rabbits etc humanely.

Simples, then one day they can make their mind up if they want to shoot pcps.

At the moment i aint interested in precharge since i've sussed the springer out.

A big thanks to you guys for all the wisdom and help given freely on here its been a total revelation for me so far.

Looking forward to learning more and hopefully getting some pics and vids up soon, bloody busy all the time.

 

Happy days and all the best.

 

Chris.

[secretagentmole 1,701]

Now you come into the what to get them group! HW, Air Arms, BSA, here we go again lol!

Edited August 19, 2012 by secretagentmole

[pianoman 3,587]

Chris, I'd bet money you could outshoot a PCP with an HW80.

 

There isn't one of these things made yet that would remotely faze me and my HW77 .22. Not even in Si Pttaway's hands. And he's a man I have utmost respect and admiration for. (That would be a hell of a vid to film Si!)

 

My dad was the absolute best rifle shot I ever knew of. He always said that;

 

"If the rifle has to do all the work, it has mastered you. ...That cannot be allowed to happen!".

 

A lot of PCP lads have allowed that to happen without realising it.

 

Get your boys springrifle shooting. It will teach them the art of shooting that PCPs will not; and it'll bond you closer to your lads as it did with my loving Dad.

 

You cannot get back years like these with your lads, once they have passed by. So fill em with memories for tomorrow. As my dad did for me.

 

All the very best to you and your boys.

 

Simon.

Edited August 19, 2012 by pianoman

[thursodog 353]

Thanks for that Simon, totally agree with your write up, incidently your original write up on spring rifle shooting switched the lightbulb on some time ago.

I decided straight after reading it that this was the way i wanted to go and i've not deviated from this path since.

My first ever air rifle was an HW35 and this is what my oldest will start with and i'm on the hunt for something for my wee boy, Weihrauch again, can't see past them.

Wanted advert in Scotads this Wednesday for all things Weihrauch.

But for myself this little discussion on another thread about a prosport has got me thinking, really like the look of them, the vids look great too, i'm a lefty too so it'll have to be next year if i've got to get a stock made for one.

Then next challenge is to do up and tune an old HW77 for targets and hunting.

I'm determined to achieve mega tight groups.

 

 

Atb Chris.

[secretagentmole 1,701]

Could be worth joining the Weihrauch Owners Club and asking there!

[thursodog 353]

Cheers pal, been a member for a while now, somit will crop up no doubt.

 

Atb Chris.

[BenjaminCadd 109]

Couldnt agree more, i have often wondered about pcps but i have never even used one and dont feel the urge to get one, the satifaction you get with a springer when all gos to plan is great and even if it dose not go to plan the passion is there to get it right and perfect, as said in the post already will be something to look forward to handing down!.

[secretagentmole 1,701]

Pity you are not after a Diana 25D or Diana 27....

[zini 1,939]

There isn't one of these things made yet that would remotely faze me and my HW77 .22. Not even in Si Pttaway's hands. And he's a man I have utmost respect and admiration for. (That would be a hell of a vid to film Si!).

 

Yeah that sounds a brilliant idea Simon you know I'm always up for a shoot to test myself against a better man. Its the competitive part in me .

 

We could use this episode to show others who follow our channel how good a well shot springer can be if shot correctly by a marksman.

 

Maybe Davy can come up with a very testing shoot / challenge for us to do at the meet in October and we can film it at the same time, will be awesome.

 

Ill bring my HW100 S which will give the episode some credit to the viewers as everyone knows that these pcps are excellent.

 

Si.

Edited August 20, 2012 by zini

[pianoman 3,587]

Hi Si. I knew you'd be up for this! I'd be delighted to do it with you mate.

 

I cannot make the October meet alas due to work commitment but, I would make arrangement with you, perhaps at Davy's club and we could set up and shoot there. A comparative zero group and range accuracy demo would be good to show the sceptics that a well-sorted spring rifle, .177 or .22 is just as accurate as a PCP with correct hold technique employed. Then use it to shoot a series of target challenges. (Not that bloody tunnel! I only clonked whatever the metal target was in that thing!)

 

Choice of PCPs and your calibres I leave entirely up to you. Bring the very best you have. My best is my .22 HW77 with Simmons Whitetail Classic 30-30 reticle scope.

 

And NO BIPODS..(Oh alright you can use one if you want to!)

 

I wouldn't say I was the better man though. I just know what I'm doing with my rifle as you do with yours.

 

Let's have some fun!

 

 

Best regards Si mate.

 

Simon

Edited August 20, 2012 by pianoman

[zini 1,939]

Sounds cool Simon .

 

No bipods then mate, lets make it a good shoot.

 

The best PCP we have is the Ultra but i like my HW100 S so will bring that, i will also bring my HW97Kt and see how that performs against you too pal.

 

All good fun and a good experience for me.

 

I love a good shoot off LOL.

 

Takecare buddy.

 

Si.

[thursodog 353]

Looking forward to watching a couple of pros showing us how its done.

[thursodog 353]

Pity you are not after a Diana 25D or Diana 27....

Temptation is a terrible thing, i'm looking them up in Guntrader just now.

I know they're very good too but i am rather faithfull to Weihrauch.

I am looking though

[davyt63 1,845]

There isn't one of these things made yet that would remotely faze me and my HW77 .22. Not even in Si Pttaway's hands. And he's a man I have utmost respect and admiration for. (That would be a hell of a vid to film Si!).

 

Yeah that sounds a brilliant idea Simon you know I'm always up for a shoot to test myself against a better man. Its the competitive part in me .

 

We could use this episode to show others who follow our channel how good a well shot springer can be if shot correctly by a marksman.

 

Maybe Davy can come up with a very testing shoot / challenge for us to do at the meet in October and we can film it at the same time, will be awesome.

 

Ill bring my HW100 S which will give the episode some credit to the viewers as everyone knows that these pcps are excellent.

 

Si.

 

hi Si & Simon

yes chaz and i can come up with some challenging shots!

15mm kill zone from 5yds to 55yds ? with some obstructions down to 10mm,if we angle the tunnle right this time we all might hit the kill zone? :laugh:

[pianoman 3,587]

5 to 55 yards will be fine for me Davy and it will be a breeze for Si! I think we can all squeeze a .22 pellet through 15mm.

 

I will be shooting by pure judgement and instinct from a basic zero as my Hawke SR12 scope has bitten the dust..literally!..So it's my good and faithful old Simmons Whitetail Classic 4.5-14x40mm AO with 30-30 reticle unless I can find a replacement SR12. But, it's sighting brilliantly on my Weihrauch HW77 .22. So I'm not unduly worried exactly!

 

But, whatever. The main thing is, I think it will be good to demonstrate and compare performances of accuracy between a quality PCP and a quality Spring rifle. And hopefully dispel a few myths about spring rifles in general. And that's a good thing to come out from the shoot.

 

Looking forward to fine shooting from all!

 

Simon

 

Edit to add.

 

Is it alright if I can actually go look and see where the bloody target in the tunnel is, this time around?!! :laugh:

Edited August 21, 2012 by pianoman