ghillies 209 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) hense 'its your art' you do what you do.... edit..dunt matter what way you go with it, well..within reason, but has any one nostised the oone fundimental in all the way? time and effert put in = results. Edited August 19, 2012 by ghillies 1 Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) My opinion is that there is a lot more to Chairgun than just a 10 minutes quick (estimate) trajectory map. With understanding of the software a lot better than has been mentioned here, mixed in with a 3 shot group at a distant target will enable great results to be produced. In fact you can actually manage to jiggle the numbers very slightly to get a trajectory map either spot on or within 1/4 of a mildot along your whole trajectory which is better than most can self calibrate anyway. My last 3 or 4 calibrations i haven't shot at more than 3 targets from 5 to 60 metres and my results are proving to put vermin in the bag. I agree that shooting and calibrating using a correction of the moment for all the non standard conditions and pellet BC will get bang on correct answers as long as you are correctly zeroed pellet on pellet before you start and you take your time in doing it. Just wanted to bring out the point that there is other reliable ways. Si. Edited August 20, 2012 by zini Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) i kinda know what you mean si.. and holding your crosshair perfectly still at say 60m when your trying to see how low your pellets have impacted to see which mildot you need to use isnt easy!! even if u rested the rifle on a bag or bipod.. lol Edited August 20, 2012 by Skot Ruthless Teale Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) hmm a little mind game to play.. if you can hold it still at ten yard...look at 60 yards, should be still there too really. (yes the distance and or higher mag shows the wobble more, but that means you were wobbling at ten yards..) but yes as simple as it sounds standing 'still' isnt as easy in practic is it lol.. si..couldnt agree more..the maths is right, and thers a reason why it the results vary, which brings back to illiminating a few little anoyences for the 'ideal' like good barrel, shot consistancy, weighing pellets etc etc... but practice being hi on the list. little episode at the range one time, i turned up late ad got straight into the paper, only i didnt re adjust the mag back down from 20x, after a couple of minutes i tamed down alll that wobble and shot away hap[ily untill it just dawned on me 'hold on that targets big?' then i wobbled all over the place and had to turn the mag down.. half of its in the mind. Edited August 20, 2012 by ghillies Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 here just had a thought 'trying to see your pellet' thats follow through? lol. comes as standard dunt it? Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Morning Ghillies mate, what have you been on now! Follow through is just keeping the rifle perfectly on aim and the trigger pressed til the shot hits the target, It's a discipline that keeps everything. and you, as still and as wobble-free as possible as the pellet leaves the barrel and your influence on the shot at the impact on the target. Cheers mate. Simon Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 the best way i know of doign that is keep your ryr on the ball.. you'll see where the pellet lands, even through a springer.. well, its especialy good through a spring because it takes your minds ogg off of the grip and lets you adjust to do it correctly. Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Must admit only just recently have i been more able to see the impact of my pellet through my scope on a springer. Its easyer with a low recoil rifle or a pcp.. or when lamping. Guess i might be getting better at shooting then ? Quote Link to post
gurtwurz 792 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Same here,i can't get on with the computer stuff at all, apart from coming on here, and a few other sites (yes, those sites....) When calibrating my scope I take a bunch of knock down targets out with 15mm kill zones and just spend an afternoon or two simply shooting at them. Once I've worked out where I'm looking I just spend an afternoon shooting at them randomly and see how I'm getting on. I know doing grouping tests is more accurate but I get bored pretty quick, and find that I'm able to see how I'd get on in a real world test with the knock downs cos if I miss then sod all happens and if I'm shooting straight then they drop. The best thing about old school calibration though is that it means youre spending time shouting your combo, cos no amount of computer time can beat getting out there and getting to know your gun through plenty of practice. Cheers, wurz Quote Link to post
Daz 7 563 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Same here,i can't get on with the computer stuff at all, apart from coming on here, and a few other sites (yes, those sites....) When calibrating my scope I take a bunch of knock down targets out with 15mm kill zones and just spend an afternoon or two simply shooting at them. Once I've worked out where I'm looking I just spend an afternoon shooting at them randomly and see how I'm getting on. I know doing grouping tests is more accurate but I get bored pretty quick, and find that I'm able to see how I'd get on in a real world test with the knock downs cos if I miss then sod all happens and if I'm shooting straight then they drop. The best thing about old school calibration though is that it means youre spending time shouting your combo, cos no amount of computer time can beat getting out there and getting to know your gun through plenty of practice. Cheers, wurz Same here John mate i'm crap at computers so shoot at markers from 10 yrds out to 70 yrds two or three shots at each and just watch where pellets hit and mark them on a bit of paper of a similar recticule of the scope i'm using and correspond it to My Recticule on the scope . atvb Daz 7 Quote Link to post
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