dave harcombe

[heed 10]

Nearly lost some permission last year due to someone wiping out the foxes shooting everything. The local hunt thought it was us with the terriers. Some people don't know when to stop and can draw attention and f**k it up for others

[dogsbody 14]

Probably get f****d for this but here goes .

Im an all round fox controller.I use many methods of control to help out landowners in the never ending battle against charlie .Dont get me wrong ,terrier work is my lifelong passion but its not the way to control fox numbers properly but merely a tool to this end .A while ago ,i shot a pair joined with a rifle and put the pic on here which mr H went to town on in the mag but at the same time he is justly proud of shooting a pair in a stop end .The double standards he lives by are amusing to someone who sees the bigger picture.

Makes me smile how bitter he gets about the midnight cowboys ,the very same attitude that drives many shooters to shoot more foxes in hunt country .He seems to dig his fair share of foxes and openly states he is doing it in the name of controlling a pest for the farmers but dosnt want anyone else to lend a hand outside his little clique or to kill a bigger tally with a rifle .

I get the mag ,have his books but dont look up to him as a god like some do ,just a bloke doing his thing .

Talking pre-ban of course, one of the reason hunts "see their arse" with rifle men is that a lot of time and money is put into running a hunt country. Probably the biggest expense is running a flesh round which costs us around £12-15k a year but provides a valuable service to farmers. Then there is all the time and money spent building and repairing jumps,wickets, bridges etc, laying cover, earth stopping and even just driving round to see landowners to set up country. When you take all this into consideration you can see why someone might be a little miffed when someone goes lamping a few days before a meet and shoots half a dozen foxes. Many people (usually amateurs, not proffesional fox controlers) see lamping foxes as a sport but fail to remember thats while its sport to them, hunting is a huntsmans job and many months of hard work can be ruined in just a few nights. In some areas there is also a big problem with people (without permission) shooting out of vehicles at night. Most dont even pick up what they shoot, be it rabbit, hare or fox. There is a need, and room for all forms of fox control and people should try tro co-operate and get along rather than falling out and giving the antis more ammunition.

[fredofrog 9]

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[marshman 7,757]

@fredthefrog. Fair comment mate , have you ever dug with Harcombe or Powell then?

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

i thought all these great dogmen gifted pups and didnt charge?suppose when anyone with the coin can buy these dogs they aint that elite-imo-why would you promote a line if you wernt making coin from it?then surely you lose sight of what you set out to do which is have the best dogs for the job-money and fame seem to be more important these days-i think that the real men wouldnt dream of having their names spoken by every slack jaw d clown-the more people know your name-the more on top it becomes-the future of working dogs is not in the hands of the book writers and bum boys,but the lads that breed between a tight circle and cull the shit not to be bred from and passed off as wonder dogs every line has shit from time to time-but when theres people who will buy shit just to own the name-its a losing battle-never worry what others have-just worry about your own-and be honest with yourself.happy digging.bobby

[rob84 112]

The trouble is everybody thinks Harcombe and Powells dogs are the best because they tell you they are in books and magazines. How many of the people who say there dogs are great have been out with them. There's loads of people in the country who breed good dogs. but you know about Powells because Harcombe keeps telling you there great. Not to mention his pocket rockets or whippet bulls to anybody else who's ever bred that cross.

You have never been out and seen these dogs work!lol

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

ive seen 2 that couldnt find a fox in a phone box-lol-they were shown up by a 12yr old pat/russell bitch-whats the score with them then pal?they came from jp himself- -only seem to find in shallow spots-and dont like having to wait about for you to get down to them-thats my experiance of them-i wouldnt feed 1myself-stick to my scruffy stayers-you will have to invite me out and show me different pal.i dont mind travelling but unless jp s dogs dig and back fill i cant see how they any different to the next mans,atb

[rob84 112]

So your slating the whole line on the fact that of the two dogs you seen work weren't up to much good!

Not every dog is going to work, but i bet you any money you will not find a more consistent producing line anywhere. As you say you have only seen two go...

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

YOU CANT BELIEVE EVERYTHING PEOPLE TELL YOU MATE-ONLY WHAT I SEE WITH ME OWN EYES-not slating the whole line just commenting on what i seen-and they wernt all that-we all have or will have dogs that dont make the grade thats nature-if your honest with yourself -put a name and dream to something and people will buy that dream-can you tell me the difference between a pocketrocket and a well bred bull/whip?because im looking REALLY hard and cant see the wood through the trees atb

[spindolero 1,111]

i thought all these great dogmen gifted pups and didnt charge?suppose when anyone with the coin can buy these dogs they aint that elite-imo-why would you promote a line if you wernt making coin from it?then surely you lose sight of what you set out to do which is have the best dogs for the job-money and fame seem to be more important these days-i think that the real men wouldnt dream of having their names spoken by every slack jaw d clown-the more people know your name-the more on top it becomes-the future of working dogs is not in the hands of the book writers and bum boys,but the lads that breed between a tight circle and cull the shit not to be bred from and passed off as wonder dogs every line has shit from time to time-but when theres people who will buy shit just to own the name-its a losing battle-never worry what others have-just worry about your own-and be honest with yourself.happy digging.bobby

 

"slack jawed clown", I like that, must remember it for future reference.

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

 

i thought all these great dogmen gifted pups and didnt charge?suppose when anyone with the coin can buy these dogs they aint that elite-imo-why would you promote a line if you wernt making coin from it?then surely you lose sight of what you set out to do which is have the best dogs for the job-money and fame seem to be more important these days-i think that the real men wouldnt dream of having their names spoken by every slack jaw d clown-the more people know your name-the more on top it becomes-the future of working dogs is not in the hands of the book writers and bum boys,but the lads that breed between a tight circle and cull the shit not to be bred from and passed off as wonder dogs every line has shit from time to time-but when theres people who will buy shit just to own the name-its a losing battle-never worry what others have-just worry about your own-and be honest with yourself.happy digging.bobby

 

"slack jawed clown", I like that, must remember it for future reference.

[doubledupdogs 11]

So your slating the whole line on the fact that of the two dogs you seen work weren't up to much good!

Not every dog is going to work, but i bet you any money you will not find a more consistent producing line anywhere. As you say you have only seen two go...

plenty of people have allready found far more consistent lines allready, lines that both the dogs and bitches work to a high standard not just the dogs.

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[fredofrog 9]

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[fatasafool 216]

 

@fredthefrog. Fair comment mate , have you ever dug with Harcombe or Powell then?

who's Fred the frog ? Lol