How much for a stalk ?

[Philluk 181]

 

I would have thought if you owned a boat with me once having one and can empathize with you . and the money it costs in marina fees or mooring fees , the charge made by stalking establishments would be small change in partaking in your chosen sport. LOL.

dunno I've never paid for stalking, but I am taking someone out from this site for free next week... and yes we have a big bin and all we do is throw money into it that's called boating, a 40ft cruiser is my baby but my god does it cost,

 

The good bit is that I've found a new buyer and they collect so I've had a pay rise, got 3 big beasts yesterday and didn't have to pay the shot fee or anything, all it cost was £3 in bullets, some sweat dragging them, although its getting better as I drove across the field to one of them.

 

The land I shot these on was the place I went to on Sunday I have covered it in a previous thread, its a question of doing some work get decent cards made introduce yourself and be friendly, don't be a salesman knock on the door and ask to shoot, get to know farmers and then ask, let them know your shooting in the area etc. there is land out there waiting for someone you don't need to pay all the time.

Edited April 11, 2013 by Philluk

[Hunting Solutions 3]

It all boils down to we all have somewhere either Scottish or Yorkshire blood in our veins and we are all as tight as cramp.

 

We all think we are being robbed and we all want it for nothing or in some cases to be paid for doing it. LOL

 

Its human nature yet when you try to give it away know one wants it. LOL they all think its a catch LOL

 

This Stalking game cracks me up good style.

Your Either a miserable b*****d or a Robbing one. you cant win

 

[The Duncan 802]

I quite agree as I have said before that a stalker taking a client out,should be paid for his/her time,no argument,however its this paying for the shot bollocks that gets my goat,yes if a client wounds an animal,and the stalker has to invest more time and effort looking for the animal,possibly into the next day,then again I think they should be compensated,but when people think it is ok to charge a man 40quid on top of stalking fee,carcass fee ect,just for pulling his own trigger(and lets face it that is what they are there to do in the first place) that to me just says money grabbing b*****d,and I would never under any circumstances purchase a day from anyone who does,and if we all did the same we could stamp out this racket,if I buy a day ticket trout fishing I dont expect to be charged every time my line lands on the water. rant in progress.

 

It's like buying a porno and then having to pay to knock one out

[sussex 5,777]

I'm out in a bit ,thought I,d sit up being its not peeing down or blowing a gale ..

[riflehunter583 58]

feck me a farmer has just offered me a free deer on his land I'd better take him up on the offer if deer stalking costs this much!

[sussex 5,777]

Cant get cheaper than that ....good luck

[Philluk 181]

 

I quite agree as I have said before that a stalker taking a client out,should be paid for his/her time,no argument,however its this paying for the shot bollocks that gets my goat,yes if a client wounds an animal,and the stalker has to invest more time and effort looking for the animal,possibly into the next day,then again I think they should be compensated,but when people think it is ok to charge a man 40quid on top of stalking fee,carcass fee ect,just for pulling his own trigger(and lets face it that is what they are there to do in the first place) that to me just says money grabbing b*****d,and I would never under any circumstances purchase a day from anyone who does,and if we all did the same we could stamp out this racket,if I buy a day ticket trout fishing I dont expect to be charged every time my line lands on the water. rant in progress.

It's like buying a porno and then having to pay to knock one out

superb

[riflehunter583 58]

 

 

I quite agree as I have said before that a stalker taking a client out,should be paid for his/her time,no argument,however its this paying for the shot bollocks that gets my goat,yes if a client wounds an animal,and the stalker has to invest more time and effort looking for the animal,possibly into the next day,then again I think they should be compensated,but when people think it is ok to charge a man 40quid on top of stalking fee,carcass fee ect,just for pulling his own trigger(and lets face it that is what they are there to do in the first place) that to me just says money grabbing b*****d,and I would never under any circumstances purchase a day from anyone who does,and if we all did the same we could stamp out this racket,if I buy a day ticket trout fishing I dont expect to be charged every time my line lands on the water. rant in progress.

It's like buying a porno and then having to pay to knock one out

superb

 

i would want each shooting experience to last as long as possible. if there is a charge for each shot

Edited April 15, 2013 by riflehunter583

[shootlodge 145]

There are many different circumstances i am sure, farmed, forestry grounds, & managed grounds. Some go out & shoot all they see, whether rabbits , fox or deer & it don't take long to wipe an area out if not managed correctly. If abused the resident animals soon wander off to safer havens, or get accustomed to the sight, sound & smell of danger , making themselves scarce.

 

Managed grounds have costs to cover, winter feed, fuel, planting, etc etc hence the quality stalking & meat . The animals are not there to be wiped out ,or cause suffering to with inexperienced shots , posssibly deer dieing a slow painful death, wasting the meat also. They are there to managed into fine specimens for health , disease free & to cull as required to slow the destruction of any crops , meadows etc they may cause. The idea is not kill everything that be seen !! I for 1 get as much pleasure watching them, in the natural habitat doing there daily thing etc & knowing some well, just as i do tasting them on my fork next to fine veg occasionally.

 

If only the countryside were filled with all quarry by the dozens as like sheep in the meadows, then things would be different. As i see they are NOT & skill is needed , that takes time

 

"The wildlife of today is not ours to dispose of as we please. We have it in trust. We must account for it to those who come after." - KING GEORGE VI

[charlie caller 3,654]

There are many different circumstances i am sure, farmed, forestry grounds, & managed grounds. Some go out & shoot all they see, whether rabbits , fox or deer & it don't take long to wipe an area out if not managed correctly. If abused the resident animals soon wander off to safer havens, or get accustomed to the sight, sound & smell of danger , making themselves scarce.

 

Managed grounds have costs to cover, winter feed, fuel, planting, etc etc hence the quality stalking & meat . The animals are not there to be wiped out ,or cause suffering to with inexperienced shots , posssibly deer dieing a slow painful death, wasting the meat also. They are there to managed into fine specimens for health , disease free & to cull as required to slow the destruction of any crops , meadows etc they may cause. The idea is not kill everything that be seen !! I for 1 get as much pleasure watching them, in the natural habitat doing there daily thing etc & knowing some well, just as i do tasting them on my fork next to fine veg occasionally.

 

If only the countryside were filled with all quarry by the dozens as like sheep in the meadows, then things would be different. As i see they are NOT & skill is needed , that takes time

 

"The wildlife of today is not ours to dispose of as we please. We have it in trust. We must account for it to those who come after." - KING GEORGE VI

A very comprehensive reply Ray and I could not agree more with your sentiments about wiping things out,yes everything has to be managed,and I also agree about the wounding bit as well,HOWEVER charging a chap 40 quid to pull his trigger is not going to improve his bullet placement/shooting skills is it?practice on the range,foxing,shooting rabbits with a .22 ect,and going out with a decent stalker prepared to show our tyro hunter the ropes,all creates a decent grounding, into deer stalking,and if part of that process is going on paid stalks then so be it,yes a stalking fee,yes a fee for the venison,all perfectly acceptable,BUT NOT BEING CHARGED TO PULL YOUR TRIGGER AT THE VERY THING YOU HAVE STRIVED SO HARD TO GET IN FRONT OF ALL MORNING/EVENING,as I have said before, the only thing this serves to do is line the stalkers pockets in addition to a fee already paid,it is a tax pure and simple,and more fool you if you pay it.

[shootlodge 145]

What is dis appointing the whole country is supposed to be over run with deer and 50 thousand a year needed to be culled just to put a dent in to numbers, as recently covered on country file and constantly on the news and in the papers, so why is it so difficult to get access to shoot them ? for ordinary working class guys? why is it a rich mans sport? money talks simple as that .dsc 1, and all that, money making again, you dont need rabbit stalking exams ? pigeon shooting exams ?

people making money thats what it is not all land out their has to be paid for on a lease door knocking for rabbits and pigeons same land as deer on it ,then so called guides make brass

 

http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/news/537313/EXCLUSIVE_Deer_cull_numbers_wrong.html < see here

 

To some ,it is a living, after all its hard work & throughout the winter getting to these areas, not to mention the loading ,mixing & unloading of 25kg sacks,by the dozen ,as you know & costs escalate ,fuel, feed ,equipt as on any deer or any well kept game, on any seasonal hunting, whether duck, pheasant , goose etc. You work , you get paid. ( dont you ?) If there are so many deer , as you say & like rabbits & pigeon in the countryside, then they would be classed as pest/vermin, They are NOT ! Then farmer tennant/ lease holder/ land squire would agree & allow you to cull as you say like rabbit & pigeon shooting , but fact is fact, they are NOT ! Even some Scotish estates buy trophy deer in , costing ££££'s.

 

Would all agree , we all look for the best price & the best option ? if so, next time you wish a stalk ,& if you love the challenge . look at all the options & consider, accomodation, fuel etc to where you stalk & enjoy. All are priced diffrent ,do as you think best ,as all we pay what we are happy to. Some are £+ £20 shot , others £50 + £50 others £120 , you descide & go with your instinct .

 

I for one would prefer a fee + shot , some may wish to pay the £100+ flat rate, the choice is yours . (but dont moan after, when there nothing to be seen on unknown grounds ) Lets not forget also, some do need a guide & experienced hands on , with all practises. whether clays, ranges ,syndicate or club, tution costs & if you think it does not have benefits, to get a few lessons or educated in what ever, dont do it Many may not need rabbit or pigeon shooting exams, but this shows the level of understanding when it comes to a different sport , saftey, costs , recognition , calibres & use of, theres doing things on a budget & there again theres doing it right for the long term. pigeon bashing & deer stalking are 2 completely different skills with no comparison to each other

 

If there really are that many deer as you claim, we too would need a helping hand, the animals wouldnt need the feed , as they would be thriving without us & we would be begging the more experienced hunters to help us out for FREE !

[charlie caller 3,654]

So essentialy what you are saying then Ray,is that if you dont pay a fee + shot fee then the ground will be barren and the stalking no good then?or at the very least a good chance of it?what utter rubbish,from a personal standpoint it does not affect me as I am lucky enough to have my own FREE stalking,for several different species,and only buy a day if I want to shoot a species not present on my ground ect,maybe I have been extreemly lucky but every day I have booked in the past,have always been good days,I am not saying I got a deer everytime, but pretty much so,and guess what,I never paid to let my rifle off(remarkable I know)and yes ray some do need a guide I quite agree, but please explain to me in laymans terms how releiving some poor sod of some crisp notes everytime he pulls his trigger is going to help him????? over to you Ray.

[shootlodge 145]

Take a few members out on your free deer,with no costs , the penny will soon drop

[shootlodge 145]

I agree some seem to go over board on fee's, but there again i do not know everyones circumstances on the deer they have,some areas are managed , some roam & are to be culled as required, all estates/farms are different.

As for taking folk out, fair is fair i do like wise , offers have been placed.

[charlie caller 3,654]

Take a few members out on your free deer,with no costs , the penny will soon drop

Yes Ray I understand where you are comming from I am not advocating a free for all, and I have never once suggested that charging a stalking fee/carcass fee was wrong,so let me ask you,lets say a novice with his first cf rifle pays you to take him out foxing for the evening,do you charge him for the shot then,if he has one?if not why not?is it your altruistic nature kicking in or is it that you know even the biggest mug on the planet could not be conned into paying for pulling his trigger on the humble fox,but do enlighten us mate,I look forward to your reply?